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tsquare 05-27-2011 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 999572)
This is a serious question and not flame bait. Your plan is essentially the plan followed by the APA at American. They are now 4+ years into negotiation and the NMB basically told them, the numbers do matter, the ability of the company to pay your wages IS a pilots' concern, and we won't deal with you until you change your stance. The last background point is that the NMB has no limit on how long these negotiations can take. Literally, they can go forever.

So the question is: How will you convince the NMB to handle our case differently than they have handled every other case so far?

(Hint: if your answer involves changing the Railway Labor Act to make it more labor friendly then please look at the makeup of Congress and tell me how that works.)

The makeup of congress is irrelevant. The DC idiots will not let us strike no matter what side of the aisle they are from. Too big to fail... too big to shut down the American economy. I have said this before and I will say it again, if you think we can go on strike, you are delusional. It will take more creative ways of getting our point across, and that is where I think national is a waste of my money. There is little creativity there.

Jesse 05-27-2011 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 999502)
Yesterday I did a DTW-JAX-DTW & it was full, full, full. The airport was busy too. BTW, today is day 2 of 5 & I'll let ya know how the rest of the loads are. :D

You look at what the revenue is for these flights and it's an insult to try to get us to "temper" our expectations for C2012.

tsquare 05-27-2011 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 999588)
You look at what the revenue is for these flights and it's an insult to try to get us to "temper" our expectations for C2012.


Where do you get those numbers? I have no clue how much we are making on a given city pair. How can you get that number?

johnso29 05-27-2011 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 999571)
Hey boys......the new ACARS software is on it's way! Looks like the 737 fleet is the first to get it. Go to Deltanet and pull up the 737 fleet page and check it out (its in the dead center).

fNWA guys will be able to just review and note the things (like logging TO and landing IDs) that aren't turned on yet. But, overall this is good. T or any other line check ER guys know when this will be turned on for us ER types?

Ferd


Ferd,

Yesterday I flew 3 legs and everyone had our arrival gate on it when I pulled up the ACARS arrival data upon landing. IDK if it's new, a test period, or if I've just been missing it for over a year! :D

I'm on a 31 hour layover now, but 4 legs tomorrow so I'll see if it pops up after the in range or after landing. Good stuff though. :)

johnso29 05-27-2011 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 999580)
Bwaaaa haaaa haaaaa haaaaaaa .... oh.. you're serious. :D Actually I haven't heard anything. I will check and see what I can find out after the first of the week. Being that it's Friday.. of course now there's nobody around to answer these kinds of questions..

Worse yet, it's Friday before Memorial Day. :D

Ferd149 05-27-2011 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 999580)
Bwaaaa haaaa haaaaa haaaaaaa .... oh.. you're serious. :D Actually I haven't heard anything. I will check and see what I can find out after the first of the week. Being that it's Friday.. of course now there's nobody around to answer these kinds of questions..

Thanks T. It also kept some nice features from the current software and added a couple others as I recall. For example, it will auto initialize and there is a button for FMC reset if necessary. I doubt there is any hurry asking the question, we're the biggest fleet so I'm sure we'll be last after any bugs are worked out:cool:

Ferd

tsquare 05-27-2011 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 999603)
Worse yet, it's Friday before Memorial Day. :D

It's the first weekend holiday in a long time I am not working... I think the earth just flew off axis

Ferd149 05-27-2011 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 999600)
Ferd,

Yesterday I flew 3 legs and everyone had our arrival gate on it when I pulled up the ACARS arrival data upon landing. IDK if it's new, a test period, or if I've just been missing it for over a year! :D

I'm on a 31 hour layover now, but 4 legs tomorrow so I'll see if it pops up after the in range or after landing. Good stuff though. :)

That may be a Bus thing? But, also coming soon......connecting gates!:cool:

Jesse 05-27-2011 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 999590)
Where do you get those numbers? I have no clue how much we are making on a given city pair. How can you get that number?

I was doing my own back of the envelope calculations. With all the "transparency" going on (e.g. explanations on fuel hedging, etc.) you'd think ALPA would send out a "This is how much the company makes on some typical flights" memo.

tsquare 05-27-2011 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 999608)
I was doing my own back of the envelope calculations. With all the "transparency" going on (e.g. explanations on fuel hedging, etc.) you'd think ALPA would send out a "This is how much the company makes on some typical flights" memo.

Seriously? You think you can take a snapshot of one flight on one day and base a contract negotiation stance on THAT? Really? Nonetheless, I would love to see some of those calculations...


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