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Old 05-01-2009, 09:59 AM
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Yeppers. But I like it this way better.

Wonder if those lockers are included in this. I could move a household that way......
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Old 05-01-2009, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
I'm lovin' it ...

Starting today, all Delta employees and retirees are eligible to receive a 75% discount with FedEx on Priority and Standard Overnight, 2Day and International Priority shipping (subject to a minimum $6.00 charge per package). Just show your employee ID badge to access this terrific deal.
Thank you!! It's about dang time we get that discount back!
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Old 05-01-2009, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Razor
It's good to see RA trying to do something about Biden's remarks. I also like the goal of no layoffs.


Richard H. Anderson
Chief Executive Officer
April 30, 2009

The Honorable Joseph “Joe” Biden, Jr.
Vice President of the United States
Eisenhower Executive Office Bldg.
1650 Pennsylvania Ave., N.W.
Washington, DC 20501

Dear Mr. Vice President:

Delta’s employees have rallied through this financial crisis to build the world’s largest airline. Despite a difficult economic environment, Delta has succeeded without any frontline, involuntary employee layoffs. Our goal is to weather this economy without layoffs. There has been no interruption in employee pension benefit plan contributions, shared reward payments, pay raises have continued and there have been no increases to employee health care premiums.
We are proud of what we’ve accomplished, but amid this difficult economic situation your suggestion that air travel is unsafe due to the H1N1 flu outbreak is harmful and threatens to have a negative impact on the airline industry at this critical time. We would respectfully request that government and industry follow the professional direction of the CDC, as we are doing.
Obviously, if one is feeling sick they should not go to work, attend school or travel. But for those who are feeling well, it is important for you and the White House to reassure travelers that there is no reason to be concerned.
Our employees have met the challenge posed by this flu outbreak to ensure that our aircraft are clean and that operations of our airline pose no health risk to our customers or employees.
While Secretary Napolitano and other administration officials have affirmed that public transportation is safe, we ask that you further clarify your remarks to reassure the public that commercial
air travel is safe and that there is no need for unnecessary panic and the unneeded economic disruption that would inevitably follow. We support and appreciated the administration's leadership on the Stimulus Package and do not want the economic recovery it will stimulate to be dwarfed by this event.

Sincerely,
Richard H. Anderson

cc: Rahm Emanuel, Chief of Staff to the President
Valerie Jarrett, Senior Advisor to the President
Honorable Ray LaHood, Secretary of Transportation
I hear that Joe Biden's stationery is going to be updated so that the beginning of every letter says this:

"To whom it may concern,

What the Vice President meant to say was..."

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Old 05-01-2009, 02:25 PM
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Biden does this every once in awhile on a whole variety of subjects. Seems like he gets a wild hair up his rear end and just can't help it!!! It just amazes me the amount of "intelligent" people who know absolutely nothing about the aviation industry!!!

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Old 05-01-2009, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I have seen PERP used on here to mean what seems to be two different things. At DAL-S, it was something that allowed pilots to essentially retire while remaining on the property in a contract status until DAl got their replacements trained. The actual result of that was that DAL figured out that they were getting cheap contract labor, and essentially the training of the replacements slowed to an American Airlines taxi pace. IF this is what ACL is talking about, THIS IS AN UNACCEPTABLE PROPOSAL, unless there are short timetables, and stiff heavy... and I mean HEAVY penalties for corporate non-compliance. Even at that, I think I would have a very hard time buying off on it, because the company can always blow us off and tell us to grieve it. I'm trying not to get spun up about it, but we need to talk to our reps...

So, in the spirit of dumb questions, what is the operating definition of a PERP here?? I get a feeling it means something quite different than the manner it is used in cop shows.
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Old 05-01-2009, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver2Gold
So, in the spirit of dumb questions, what is the operating definition of a PERP here?? I get a feeling it means something quite different than the manner it is used in cop shows.
Pilot
Early
Retirement
Program

This is the program from NWA.

Post
Retirement
Pilot

was the Delta program that allowed pilots to retire, then through a lottery system be selected to return to their pre-retirement category and continue to fly(though at the bottom of the seniority list). It was a band-aid approach to preventing the shutdown of our international categories, as we had several months of 200-300 pilots early retiring. Delta's pilot contract required no advance notice, so many guys were faxing their paperwork in at 2300 the last night of the month, to be effective the next day. As Sailingfun has stated, except for Check Airmen most that were selected remained only a few weeks. The 10/2001-09/2005 early retirement wave had about 2400 pilots early retire; all but 500 or so would have been gone by the time the age rule changed in December, 2007.
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Old 05-01-2009, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
While it may be true that the company did not train at a emergency pace the training was certainly never a snails pace. In fact they were putting 60 767 crews a month through the pipeline. Like many other issues the perp program became emotional. The average time a retired pilot flew under contract was 6 weeks. Most got 1 to 2 months extra. The exception to this were check airman. You can't train without them. Some check airman got to stay as long as a year extra although most were under 6 months. This was out of Delta hands since the FAA POI for the 767 program would only qualify 2 new check airman a month.
OK... fine. Train the LCPs first, after making a deal with the FAA, (and the whole enchilada is contingent on the deal with the FAA) and then send the PERPs out the door as fast as the training pipeline will allow. If you want to call it emergency pace... fine.. that works for me, but none.. zero of the PERPS should be on the property 2 months after the deal is signed. Anything less is unsat and unacceptable. period.
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Old 05-01-2009, 07:19 PM
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SLOWPLAY:

Thanks for the explanation - I'm still learning to speak Airline-ese after a couple years at this. Next month, I start a Navy reserve gig (coming from the Air Force) and get to learn another whole new flying language.
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Old 05-01-2009, 09:02 PM
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I just got some info from someone not as high up as ACL talks to that said we have 1 used MD90 in VCV that will be stored until summer 2010. We have bought two more but are letting the airline we bought them from operate them until summer 2010. When they do come on line, they will park an 88 for every 90 we get. So they probably won't need to staff any additional 90's on an AE this year.
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Old 05-01-2009, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Me too. It would only cost each DAL pilot $1 a month to be rid of me forever. I'm sure most would agree that is a bargain at twice the price....

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Thanks for the belly laugh! You got a yuk & a buck from the bar!
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