Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-01-2011 | 08:40 PM
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Super and Johnso,
Thanks for the response on the "letter". It is very sad that this is what the management is resorting to with the policy.
Effectively, it is not the same policy that NWA wisely adopted, that apparently saved them a significant amount of money over the term of it.
It is a curious but predictable action.
Thanks for the response on the "letter". It is very sad that this is what the management is resorting to with the policy.
Effectively, it is not the same policy that NWA wisely adopted, that apparently saved them a significant amount of money over the term of it.
It is a curious but predictable action.
07-02-2011 | 01:39 AM
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I was taking a walk today and thinking about this very thing. My time at NWA/DAL has been short thus far, but collectively as a occupation we have been pushed around long enough. So in support of the CAL/UAL pilots and in prep for our negotiations I'll say this.......
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07-02-2011 | 02:56 AM
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When it was introduced, the tone of the letters introducing it was very demeaning. I was offended by it. The NWA policy was no questions asked, use it as many times as you want. Giving the policy to the flight attendants was a mistake. They are a less accountable group as a whole and easier to replace (a flight attendant is not airplane or seat specific like a pilot). Instead of just taking the policy away, the company is going to eliminate it informally through intimidation. We are running 95 percent load factors this weekend. Non-revs cannot get anywhere.
And just because your Dad, and your grandfather, and your great grandfather, if they wanted a job, had to move to where the job was; you don't. Because you are a special breed, and think it perfectly reasonable that the job has to move to where you are. I get it.
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07-02-2011 | 03:42 AM
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So, with 95% load factors of PAYING passengers, you want to be able to bump them off, and have DAL lose that revenue, just so you can live in Timbuktu. I get it.
And just because your Dad, and your grandfather, and your great grandfather, if they wanted a job, had to move to where the job was; you don't. Because you are a special breed, and think it perfectly reasonable that the job has to move to where you are. I get it.
And just because your Dad, and your grandfather, and your great grandfather, if they wanted a job, had to move to where the job was; you don't. Because you are a special breed, and think it perfectly reasonable that the job has to move to where you are. I get it.
People commute for many reasons. This policy was suppose to protect against accidental problems, but it's apparent that the company's view and the pilots views on "accidental" differ.
07-02-2011 | 03:48 AM
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So, with 95% load factors of PAYING passengers, you want to be able to bump them off, and have DAL lose that revenue, just so you can live in Timbuktu. I get it.
And just because your Dad, and your grandfather, and your great grandfather, if they wanted a job, had to move to where the job was; you don't. Because you are a special breed, and think it perfectly reasonable that the job has to move to where you are. I get it.
And just because your Dad, and your grandfather, and your great grandfather, if they wanted a job, had to move to where the job was; you don't. Because you are a special breed, and think it perfectly reasonable that the job has to move to where you are. I get it.
Maybe Pineapple can come up with a catchy pro-mgt/pro-DALP cheer too!
07-02-2011 | 03:57 AM
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No, I don't think that's many people's view. Bases close - people have family connections, sick or elderly parents, spouse's jobs, or houses they cannot sell except at a significant loss. I won't rattle off the bases that have closed over the years, but there are a lot of them.
That doesn't sound like "accidental" problems to me. That sounds like an expectation that this should be a normal course of business. And that's what I have a problem with.
07-02-2011 | 03:58 AM
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07-02-2011 | 04:08 AM
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So, with 95% load factors of PAYING passengers, you want to be able to bump them off, and have DAL lose that revenue, just so you can live in Timbuktu. I get it.
And just because your Dad, and your grandfather, and your great grandfather, if they wanted a job, had to move to where the job was; you don't. Because you are a special breed, and think it perfectly reasonable that the job has to move to where you are. I get it.
And just because your Dad, and your grandfather, and your great grandfather, if they wanted a job, had to move to where the job was; you don't. Because you are a special breed, and think it perfectly reasonable that the job has to move to where you are. I get it.
Do you live in the real world or PG fantasy land?
Some BS letter for a pilot using a policy is not going to get him to put his house on the market, it's just going to get him to call in sick when he cant commute.
I bet you think attila works and that the APU sheriff program was a brilliant success.
07-02-2011 | 04:52 AM
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How many times did you change bases in the military?
Did you commute when you were in the military? No? Why not?
Pretty sad to see some pilot's integrity can be sold for so little.
No idea what this has to do with the topic at hand, but no, I don't care for either program.
Did you commute when you were in the military? No? Why not?
No idea what this has to do with the topic at hand, but no, I don't care for either program.
07-02-2011 | 04:59 AM
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So, with 95% load factors of PAYING passengers, you want to be able to bump them off, and have DAL lose that revenue, just so you can live in Timbuktu. I get it.
And just because your Dad, and your grandfather, and your great grandfather, if they wanted a job, had to move to where the job was; you don't. Because you are a special breed, and think it perfectly reasonable that the job has to move to where you are. I get it.
And just because your Dad, and your grandfather, and your great grandfather, if they wanted a job, had to move to where the job was; you don't. Because you are a special breed, and think it perfectly reasonable that the job has to move to where you are. I get it.
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