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Old 07-08-2011 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
I'd say Pinnacle could fly the E190s, as long as DL mainline pilots on our seniority list fly them, exclusively. They can have Pinnacle flight attendants, mechanics, whatever, but mainline pilots on our list with mainline pay and benefits. Other than that, a big NO.
This is exactly where our collective heads need to be going. I have been saying this for a long time.

We do not care who owns, finances or leases the jet. We will be the pilots flying them. Period. It cannot get simpler than that for a union to understand. It is about pilots jobs. Jobs above you provide advancement and jobs below you provide security.
Old 07-08-2011 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
The policy manual says that normally you will have a negotiating committee election 6 months prior to Section 6. The MEC has to either have an election or pass a resolution waiving that part of the policy manual. They have to do one or the other. So put the conspiracy theories away, the MEC has to act one way or another and I guess they will figure out how they want to proceed. Different people will have different ideas, that's democracy. In the end, they will work out a solution. Tin Foil Hats - Stow.
There he is ... and that's a completely logical explanation.

However, it is difficult to trust the South Reps after the Compass vote and in similar fashion, this sure appears aligned along pre-merger lines.

Will you discuss the notion of Delta pilots performing Delta flying off certificate if Delta needs to outsource the capex? Is this do'able? How do we build a contract so that it encourages Delta to grow organically with our own pilots?

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Old 07-08-2011 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I'm beginning to worry a lot about the way we are being managed. Perhaps its for a dark cloud picture for negotiations, or who knows...

But, the proactive and aggressive management team that I saw with the merger and the international expansion is now doing the exact opposite... just sitting there with their fingers up their noses and pulling out of cities. We just pulled down ATL-TLV for the winter recently.... really??? You cannot and will never shrink intro profitability. This combined with the continued massive level of outsourcing (and the only new jets going to outsourced companies) and I think it may be time for some management renewal as well.
Jv's are good, but lets realize that AF has the money and the benefit of the "Import-Export" bank. They are buying the big metal. Look at the order books of our Skyteam partners and then compare them to ours.

For anyone that flies in to CDG it becomes quickly apparent that they fly the big metal and we fly more block of smaller metal.
Old 07-08-2011 | 09:42 AM
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If trying to swap a trip over the same exact days for more flight time, is it true that it won't work if one of the reserve days is capped (even thought it's for more value or the same days)?
Old 07-08-2011 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by poostain
Been on the dc-9, (737 other life) and i am on the 7er now. BUT the best seat and most comfort i ever had was on the airbus, its a back problem pilots dream.
I completely agree. The 737 is very similar (probably worse) in comfort than the DC-9. At least in the 9 I could get in and out of my seat without seriously contorting my back. Not hating on the 73N as I like the trips and stage lengths, but it's by far the least comfortable of the 3.

Our Bus fleet has two types of pilot seats. The older 320's have an older, manual seat and it seems the lumbar supports aren't as good as the newer 320's and most/all of the 319's with the nice electric seats and lumbars that work. On the older seats I would actually have them completely collapse rolling down the runway when we applied takeoff power and started accelerating - and that's not because the Bus was a rocket, the old seats just weren't as sturdy as the newer ones.

Happy to be talking about something other than scope sales, contracts, and the other usual BS for at least one post.
Old 07-08-2011 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
know DAL's fleet plan, and the reality is that the 90 purchase is a Band Aid.
The MD90s tie us over until the 320NEO becomes available and permit the parking of DC-9s and MD88s while keeping the fleet count constant.

I agree that a steady flow of new aircraft is essential to keeping the fleet efficient. In reality the MD90 buy does put us in company with Allegiant.

For now it seems prudent to withhold large capex and maintain status quo when it comes to aircraft.

C-Series: never at Delta, only at DCI if we sellout.
717: Ideal 110 seater 150+ in the world, sooner than you think.
A321: we'll see them 2013 with sharklets and CFMs to replace oldest 757 birds
A320neo: that will be our new narrowbody order with the PW GTF
777-300ER: right between 300 and 400 seats, will join the fleet
747-8i: remote chance if Boeing needs orders and part of reparations for the 787
787-900 will be a good bird for ULH 7ER and 764 replacement.
330 will be added as part of future non-organic growth
350XWB-1000 to replace the RR 777-200ER downrange.

YMMV

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Old 07-08-2011 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I'm beginning to worry a lot about the way we are being managed. Perhaps its for a dark cloud picture for negotiations, or who knows...

But, the proactive and aggressive management team that I saw with the merger and the international expansion is now doing the exact opposite... just sitting there with their fingers up their noses and pulling out of cities. We just pulled down ATL-TLV for the winter recently.... really??? You cannot and will never shrink intro profitability. This combined with the continued massive level of outsourcing (and the only new jets going to outsourced companies) and I think it may be time for some management renewal as well.
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Old 07-08-2011 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Here is the policy manual: (Which I know you know)


You can also admit that the Reps called this meeting to discuss this and talk a recorded vote. Many of the reps feel no need for this election.

If they do choose as a group to have this, will you run?
Absolutely not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't afford to, don't want to, and I have committed to a long term project for one of my clients. The mere thought of it makes my skin crawl.
Old 07-08-2011 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
** Off topic (looking for help) **

Fellas,

My back is killing me. I don't know if it's from 1.) crappy seats on the DC-9; 2.) dragging my rollerboard through the airport for the last 16 years; 3.) old age; or 4.) all of the above.

Either way, with the DC-9's going away, I wonder what the seats are like on the other airplanes. How do they stand up?

I think I'm at the point where I have to bid an airplane, not for pay, or trips, but for my back.

Anyone else having these types of "old age" problems? Any suggestions?

NewK;

Its the green kryptonite in the cockpit paint on the -9.

Bid the 777. Comfy seats, nice bed, really old ranchers...sleep, sleep, sleep (tic).
Old 07-08-2011 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Jv's are good, but lets realize that AF has the money and the benefit of the "Import-Export" bank. They are buying the big metal. Look at the order books of our Skyteam partners and then compare them to ours.

For anyone that flies in to CDG it becomes quickly apparent that they fly the big metal and we fly more block of smaller metal.
JVs are not universally good. The AF/KLM is perhaps the best of the bunch.
Our smaller metal means more Delta pilots, that's a good thing across the Atlantic.

I'd like to see the new LOA for VAustralia. My fear is the ratio is already beyond the 50%-50% split in ASMs so that can't be good. In addition Alska does our feed in LAX so few Delta pilot feed jobs on this side of the Pacific, while VAustralia (formerly known as Virgin Blue) pilots get to fly Delta pax around Australia.

The big one coming is VAtlantic and I can't see how to spin "the upside" to the pilot group, this will have to be very creative (something like "West coast access to LHR")

Cheers
George

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