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Old 07-09-2011 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Growth is good, but what our pilots see is two cycles that are out of sync. Many fear we will be repeating POS 96 with limiting our expectations.
I don't get why your coffee klatch gets so worked up...inventing "scope sales" and limiting your own expectations. Don Quixote would be proud of these windmills.

How about we look at straight facts, have a debate, and then 12,500 guys will come to a conclusion? Please.
Old 07-09-2011 | 06:29 AM
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Am I the only one who has to go look up the word "klatch"?
Old 07-09-2011 | 06:34 AM
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Am I the only one who has to go look up the word "klatch"?
Are you going to add a "APC Word of the Day" to your "Babe of the Day" and "sarcastic picture of the day" posting collection?

Glad I could expand the Auburn education. Nowledge is good.
Old 07-09-2011 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
If we had a longevity only based pay system it would be a huge win. It would mean that all of our A's would be paid at the highest rate,
STOP. No it wouldn't. They would all be paid at the SAME rate -- Everyone can't be "above average". Meaning those currently at the highest rates subsidize those currently at the lowest rates as we transition. It also removes the "pay or QOL?" decision and turns it into just QOL. Great for the senior guys; but the end result is there will be no more junior categories as at present, meaning it will be many, many years before those clamoring the loudest for LBP will ever hold weekends or holidays off. As with all things - be careful what you wish for.
Old 07-09-2011 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
STOP. No it wouldn't. They would all be paid at the SAME rate -- Everyone can't be "above average". Meaning those currently at the highest rates subsidize those currently at the lowest rates as we transition. It also removes the "pay or QOL?" decision and turns it into just QOL. Great for the senior guys; but the end result is there will be no more junior categories as at present, meaning it will be many, many years before those clamoring the loudest for LBP will ever hold weekends or holidays off. As with all things - be careful what you wish for.
Like I said, I did not say I am for it, what I did say is more pilots would be at the highest pay. I have never been an big fan of this sort of pay, but I can see the points ppl make. One of them being that block time is in our favor on the JV.
Old 07-09-2011 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
I don't get why your coffee klatch gets so worked up...inventing "scope sales" and limiting your own expectations. Don Quixote would be proud of these windmills.

How about we look at straight facts, have a debate, and then 12,500 guys will come to a conclusion? Please.

Slow, there is not "my." As for scope sales, your are correct, the group will decide. It would be better for the Union to just take a position that scope is not for sale, but we both know that will not happen. With that statement absent from the leadership, pilots start to wonder. We also know that if a minor concession comes about, the group will be looking the shinny ball attached.

I will admit that I have been generally surprised by the level of mistrust people have in their bargaining agent.

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Old 07-09-2011 | 07:29 AM
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In C2K we tightened scope and increased pay. In the JCBA we tightened scope and increased pay. I don't know why everyone thinks it's one or the other, you can do both.
Old 07-09-2011 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Are you going to add a "APC Word of the Day" to your "Babe of the Day" and "sarcastic picture of the day" posting collection?

Glad I could expand the Auburn education. Nowledge is good.
Hey Slow,

I'm relatively sure the AU boys know (now) how to engage a spell checker. ......JK.

BTW, thanks for the civil response to our last broadside. First round's on me.

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Old 07-09-2011 | 07:54 AM
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So, anyone going to the special MEC meeting?

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Old 07-09-2011 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Are you going to add a "APC Word of the Day" to your "Babe of the Day" and "sarcastic picture of the day" posting collection?

Glad I could expand the Auburn education. Nowledge is good.
klatch or klatsch (klăch, kläch)
noun A casual social gathering, usually for conversation.
Origin: German Klatsch, from klatschen, to gossip, make a sharp noise, of imitative origin.
German eh?

We don't have a foreign word of the day category slow. I remember us winning a war so that we don't have to speak GERMAN!




BTW, at Auburn, we only have to count to #1. Because, well, that's who we are, #1.

And it just so happens you only need 1 point to beat BAMA!

YEAH TOUCHDOWN LUTZENKIRCHEN!



OH, oh yeah, I guess we do like speaking German at Auburn.

Well, anyways... WAR CAM EAGLE!



Where is Satch?

Last edited by forgot to bid; 07-09-2011 at 08:32 AM. Reason: it's a joke folks, it's a joke. LUTZENKIRCHEN caught the winning td against Bama in the 28 point CAMback to win 28-27.
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