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#70771

JoeMerchant , 07-13-2011 06:32 AM

Gets Weekends Off

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Today Captains Ford and Cooksey are both retired. No one has expressed any interest in compelling compliance with the provisions of the settlement agreement.

Bar, there are plenty of us still here who fully intend this policy to be complied with.

#70772

scambo1 , 07-13-2011 06:34 AM

The Brown Dot +1

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Originally Posted by LCS25

I held out higher hopes for you than this. I guess that you are missing your ALPA work.

At least you brought me out of lurk mode. To say that the administration isn't using the policy manuel to their benefit in this instance of this NC debacle is disingenuous at best, an an outright lie all likelihood. Here are my predictions:

You will see two guys initials RH and BF run for negotiating committee. You may remember RH as the one storming out of the room when he was NOT elected chairman of a certain committee, sending the minions (defined as guys on ALPA trip drops with no title in the union) scurrying out of the room to develop a hasty contingency plan when the MEC threw them a curve ball. That left RH jobless, and BF is a rep without a council. I find it fascinating that the predominant argument against the donut crowd is "don't upset the balance so close to section 6", yet that is exactly what we are about to do.

Hey, I'm not saying that there aren't politics out there. Everything is politics. Just don't let the likes of slo, alfa, and PG tell you that this isn't.

Wanna hear more? Let's head to the national level. ALPA, the organization founded on safety, will soon have no national safety chairman position, or security chairman, or jumpseat chairman, or training chairman. These positions and responsibilities will soon be assimilated by much more qualified people: the top national officers mostly the 1st vice president. BTW, isn't it interesting that 3 of the top 6 are Delta guys? It would already be done already, except the EC summarily rejected the idea outright, forcing the national chairman to cancel the vote to change the policy manual in order to regroup, AND THEN SOLICIT INPUT FROM VARIOUS COMMITTEE MEMBERS. Funny how the input wasn't requested prior to trying the forced push. Expect this to be shoved though in the very near future, if it has not already been done. There have already been some resignations from key national positions who want no part of this. Reason cited for the change: streamlining of the process and cost containment. Real reason: sidestep of key individuals who are experts in the process in order to further agendas. Result: tightening of the power group within ALPA, and less checks and balances.

There is more, oh so much more. The irony: I am not a donut person. I am an ALPA person. I am, however, in the process of reevaluation as the developments at national, trickling down to Delta, disgust me. More resignations coming. Keep watching.

I want to go to the horsetrack with you. I think everything you said is true and will come to pass just like you said it.

Truth...its amazing what it can do.

#70773

acl65pilot , 07-13-2011 06:39 AM

Happy to be here

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Originally Posted by LCS25

Sadly I have heard the same things. Factually, there were pilots on the Safety Committee from DAL that resigned because of the politicizing of the Committee. If this goes ahead as published it take a lot of the benefits of ALPA National away.

What you state is what I have heard is going on. A huge mistake IMO. On the DALPA level, there are tons of Chairs and Vice Chairs really fed up, but quitting is not the answer either. To make sustainable change this group needs to stand up and fight, hold their reps accountable, and remove them when necessary.

Bar, read the policy manual again. As I read it, wrt to the NC, it is very suggestive and not directive. A Conference call of reaffirmation would have sufficed.

#70774

chuck416 , 07-13-2011 07:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver

This morning, I received this article in an email. For those of you who haven't seen it and are interested in perspective on conflict of interest at ALPA with regard to scope, here's a link to the article:

Who Has A Say In Our Contract

I don't even know how to respond.....I haven't 'turned in my card' to DPA....yet...but am asking myself daily, "why NOT"???

#70775

Jesse , 07-13-2011 07:14 AM

Banned

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Bingo. We need to deal with this or we will be in real trouble within five years. Part of the problem is all of these agents are over worked. I would put two at each gate. It always impresses me how smoothly the operations overseas run. Two to three agents at the gate, and all issues are dealt with quickly and with respect.

It'll take more than just putting two at each gate, but it's a start. A great number of them require remedial training in several areas. Last time I was non-reving the senior gate agent spent half his time trying to help the junior one figure something out, and the other half on the phone trying to figure out how to do something else. He completely ignored the line that was in front of him, even when he got off the phone as he had to offer reimbursement to passengers who would voluntarily take themselves off the flight. That he enjoyed, because it was something he knew how to do. He enjoyed it so much he jabbered with those who wanted to give up their seats as he rounded them up to one side. Yet the line in front of him remained stagnant. I watched all of this just knowing I was not going to get on the flight, but fortunately for me he gave enough $400 coupons, dinners, breakfasts, and hotel rooms that I got a seat. As far as a good business practice, though, I hope it doesn't happen that often (paying rev pax to miss the flight so non-rev can get a seat). What definitely happens too frequently is the display of not knowing how to do their jobs well while at the same time showing customers a decent amount of respect and appreciation. Would I want to walk a mile in their shoes? H*!! no! But that's the job they've been entrusted with and it's a shame too many don't do it better. Fortunately, the majority know how to do it well, and with a greater level of customer service. But those who don't really stand out and give the company a black eye after so many others are working hard to deliver as good a traveling experience as possible to fantastic customers.

#70776

Elvis90 , 07-13-2011 07:32 AM

On Reserve

Analysts are bullish on DAL stock with quarterly profit at 50 cents per share, down 25% from 1 year ago.

Delta Air Lines, Inc. Second Quarter Earnings Sneak Peek - Yahoo! Finance

#70777

georgetg , 07-13-2011 07:32 AM

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The interpretation of a PWA violation by RAH is gaining traction.
RAH apparently is getting worried about this:

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Before the scheduled tally of the votes, NMB documents indicate that Republic had requested the NMB to “postpone the tally scheduled for June 27, 2011 while it considers whether a corporate restructuring and planned divestiture of majority ownership of Frontier Airlines, Inc. (Frontier) affects the Board’s determination that Frontier is part of the single transportation system with the RAH operating subsidiaries.”
Republic held that the situation had changed now that it had entered into a new labor agreement with FAPA. As part of this deal, Republic agreed to changes including an agreement to “further separate the Frontier management structure to include appointing a separate Frontier Chief Operating Officer and an independent Director of Labor Relations for Frontier” and also had also “agreed to divest itself of its majority equity stake in Frontier no later than December 31, 2014, after which a separate Frontier Board of Directors would be established.

Republic Tried (And Failed) To Postpone Pilot Union Election Tally - Things in the Sky

write your reps, ask them specifically to read the definition of the term domestic carrier in the PWA.
(Hint: “air carrier” means a citizen of the United States undertaking by any means, directly or indirectly, to provide air transportation.)

Here is the key: the NMB found RAH to be a single transportation system for pilot representation purposes. Sure we cant use that ruling, but that doesn't mean that their published findings are invalid.
In other words -- in order to rule STS the NMB had to investigate RAH and has published the "evidence". All we have to do is use the already established "evidence" to bring our case.

Why any of this matters?
If we don't defend the contract we have, what else is there to defend?

Cheers
George

#70778

scambo1 , 07-13-2011 07:54 AM

The Brown Dot +1

Ya'll are just tilting at windmills. There is no hidden agenda going on wrt to the negotiating committee. RAH is doing everything legally. Our scope section is ironclad. ALPAs lawyers are better than the best in the business, they wrote the textbooks that the best learn from. Crewpass is here. ALPA is the most powerful labor force on the hill. SWA pilots never were any good, thats why they dont work at DAL.

Doesnt this all sound weird coming from me?

#70779

Columbia , 07-13-2011 07:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvis90

Analysts are bullish on DAL stock with quarterly profit at 50 cents per share, down 25% from 1 year ago.

Delta Air Lines, Inc. Second Quarter Earnings Sneak Peek - Yahoo! Finance

Analysts are forecasting total revenue of $34.66 billion for the year, a rise of 9.1% from last year’s revenue of $31.76 billion.

#70780

Pineapple Guy , 07-13-2011 07:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LCS25

At least you brought me out of lurk mode. To say that the administration isn't using the policy manuel to their benefit in this instance of this NC debacle is disingenuous at best, an an outright lie all likelihood.

Well, that is my opinion. I may be naive, but I'm not being disingenuous or lying.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LCS25

Here are my predictions:

You will see two guys initials RH and BF run for negotiating committee. You may remember RH as the one storming out of the room when he was NOT elected chairman of a certain committee, sending the minions (defined as guys on ALPA trip drops with no title in the union) scurrying out of the room to develop a hasty contingency plan when the MEC threw them a curve ball. That left RH jobless, and BF is a rep without a council. I find it fascinating that the predominant argument against the donut crowd is "don't upset the balance so close to section 6", yet that is exactly what we are about to do.

Maybe they will and maybe they won't. But in the end, it is the MEC that will elect them. I have faith in my MEC to do the right thing and pick the best people for the job; apparently you do not. If you don't trust your elected rep, start the recall process. If you do, you should support their collective decision.

Here's another clue. Lee Moak is gone from DALPA. His alledged hypnotic powers are gone too; unless he is able to hypnotize TO who in turn is able to hypnotize the entire MEC into getting his wishes. Seems pretty far fetched to me.