Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver

Bar,

I don't understand your thinking on this. DPA's concerns on the language in the ALPA Administrative Manual seem legit to me.

Originally Posted by LCS25

I held out higher hopes for you than this. I guess that you are missing your ALPA work.

At least you brought me out of lurk mode. To say that the administration isn't using the policy manuel to their benefit in this instance of this NC debacle is disingenuous at best, an an outright lie all likelihood. Here are my predictions:

You will see two guys initials RH and BF run for negotiating committee. You may remember RH as the one storming out of the room when he was NOT elected chairman of a certain committee, sending the minions (defined as guys on ALPA trip drops with no title in the union) scurrying out of the room to develop a hasty contingency plan when the MEC threw them a curve ball. That left RH jobless, and BF is a rep without a council. I find it fascinating that the predominant argument against the donut crowd is "don't upset the balance so close to section 6", yet that is exactly what we are about to do.

Hey, I'm not saying that there aren't politics out there. Everything is politics. Just don't let the likes of slo, alfa, and PG tell you that this isn't.

Wanna hear more? Let's head to the national level. ALPA, the organization founded on safety, will soon have no national safety chairman position, or security chairman, or jumpseat chairman, or training chairman. These positions and responsibilities will soon be assimilated by much more qualified people: the top national officers mostly the 1st vice president. BTW, isn't it interesting that 3 of the top 6 are Delta guys? It would already be done already, except the EC summarily rejected the idea outright, forcing the national chairman to cancel the vote to change the policy manual in order to regroup, AND THEN SOLICIT INPUT FROM VARIOUS COMMITTEE MEMBERS. Funny how the input wasn't requested prior to trying the forced push. Expect this to be shoved though in the very near future, if it has not already been done. There have already been some resignations from key national positions who want no part of this. Reason cited for the change: streamlining of the process and cost containment. Real reason: sidestep of key individuals who are experts in the process in order to further agendas. Result: tightening of the power group within ALPA, and less checks and balances.

There is more, oh so much more. The irony: I am not a donut person. I am an ALPA person. I am, however, in the process of reevaluation as the developments at national, trickling down to Delta, disgust me. More resignations coming. Keep watching.

Originally Posted by Jesse

It'll take more than just putting two at each gate, but it's a start. A great number of them require remedial training in several areas. Last time I was non-reving the senior gate agent spent half his time trying to help the junior one figure something out, and the other half on the phone trying to figure out how to do something else. He completely ignored the line that was in front of him, even when he got off the phone as he had to offer reimbursement to passengers who would voluntarily take themselves off the flight. That he enjoyed, because it was something he knew how to do. He enjoyed it so much he jabbered with those who wanted to give up their seats as he rounded them up to one side. Yet the line in front of him remained stagnant. I watched all of this just knowing I was not going to get on the flight, but fortunately for me he gave enough $400 coupons, dinners, breakfasts, and hotel rooms that I got a seat. As far as a good business practice, though, I hope it doesn't happen that often (paying rev pax to miss the flight so non-rev can get a seat). What definitely happens too frequently is the display of not knowing how to do their jobs well while at the same time showing customers a decent amount of respect and appreciation. Would I want to walk a mile in their shoes? H*!! no! But that's the job they've been entrusted with and it's a shame too many don't do it better. Fortunately, the majority know how to do it well, and with a greater level of customer service. But those who don't really stand out and give the company a black eye after so many others are working hard to deliver as good a traveling experience as possible to fantastic customers.

Originally Posted by JABDIP

Doesn't this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^make DPA even more appealing?????????

Originally Posted by JABDIP

Just watch how many key strokes it takes to just check someone in not to mention doing something for someone that has a problem. I think it goes back to the IT being so outdated. A new system is needed badly that would simplify the whole process. Hopefully it is on its way!

Originally Posted by scambo1

The truth is, yes. Why, because we do not have more guys who work for DALPA feeling and vocalizing the same sentiment.

Prior to a diplomat taking his/her station posting, one of the sternest and most frequent warnings is: Never go native.

What that really means:
1. You are not personally important, your position is why you are treated like royalty. Not you. (DALPA officers vs MGMT)
2. Never forget who you work for and always report factually and truthfully. It makes the analysts job easier and keeps policy decisions more correct.

Our (DAL pilots) goals are aligned with the company's success, but NEVER to the detriment of our (DAL pilots) goals.

Originally Posted by georgetg

You just cant make this up:

ASA and Expressjet combine to form:

SureJet- Partner. Ally. Friend.



Brand | Atlantic Southeast Airlines

Cheers
George

Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg

It seems sometimes the primary goal of this MEC is to stay in their positions, primarily by promising small gains, and then achieving them, instead if working harder to achieve all the goals stated by their constituents. By managing our expectations, they can achieve those smaller goals, and stay in office a little longer. I just don't see any outward promotion, any "rocking the boat.". Slow, thoughts?

Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Well when you do not have branded ops, who cares about the name