Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-13-2011 | 04:09 PM
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From: Light Chop
Hot chick? YES!
Bikini! YES
Cliff? YES
DIVE? YES
FAIL?
Bikini! YES
Cliff? YES
DIVE? YES
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07-13-2011 | 04:19 PM
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What you ask is way over my head, I was just asking because I don't know. I would think there is enough work during a section 6 for four guys with maybe only 3 needed during between years? Like you said, that should be up to the NC Chairman or at least he should have a major input.
I'll take your word on $400K per member per year but that does seem high to me. Assuming even a $200K FPL replacement, where would the other $200K come from. Not picking a fight, just trying to edUmakate myself.
I'll take your word on $400K per member per year but that does seem high to me. Assuming even a $200K FPL replacement, where would the other $200K come from. Not picking a fight, just trying to edUmakate myself.
Assuming 5 days a week multiplied by 48 weeks is 240 days. $200K / 240 days is $833 a day.
07-13-2011 | 04:22 PM
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I would love to see fact based evidence of this, for all pilots to see.
I know that in 2000-01, UALALPA and DALPA produced the richest contracts in us airline history.
I know that SWAPA has NEVER produced contractual gains that propelled them to "lead the industry", and that APA has done pretty well but never really "led" the pack (well except maybe with the B-scale).
I know that NPA (Airtran), and FPA (FedEx) were independent and decided to JOIN ALPA instead of stay independent because it was a better way to make gains in their careers.
I know that USAPA has produced NOTHING tangible for their pilots in more than two years of "independent operation", and they have a multi-million budget deficit that threatens the existence of the organization.
This is what I know. I do not know of any accomplishments of DPA.
I know that in 2000-01, UALALPA and DALPA produced the richest contracts in us airline history.
I know that SWAPA has NEVER produced contractual gains that propelled them to "lead the industry", and that APA has done pretty well but never really "led" the pack (well except maybe with the B-scale).
I know that NPA (Airtran), and FPA (FedEx) were independent and decided to JOIN ALPA instead of stay independent because it was a better way to make gains in their careers.
I know that USAPA has produced NOTHING tangible for their pilots in more than two years of "independent operation", and they have a multi-million budget deficit that threatens the existence of the organization.
This is what I know. I do not know of any accomplishments of DPA.
Shiz;
I for one applaud your fearless defense of what you feel is the truth. You never seem to make it or take it personally. You are honest with no apparent agenda beyond raising the bar.
I sometimes agree with some of your posts and often I do not, but at least you are honest about your perspective.
I am not interested in picking at this post because it would be a he said she said. I agree that DPA - if they mobilized the troops -could or should get some agenda items moving right now. I think they should do this too.
There may be some reason they are not either strategically or legally, I dont know. Sadly, with ALPA, we rank and file types are sidelined and marginalized. I dont need my voice heard on every issue but I do need it heard on scope and it has been heard.
If DALPA doesnt pull a rabbit out of a hat with respect to RAH I am a DPA man - it was the last straw for me, I've seen enough. Its really that simple.
Without scope, every other contract section is meaningless.
07-13-2011 | 04:32 PM
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Scambo, You are correct. Scope is Section One for a reason......
07-13-2011 | 04:33 PM
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92-100 hours per month at the highest rate their seniority can hold +35% for benefits + per diem + lodging + taxes + expenses it all adds up fast.
07-13-2011 | 05:23 PM
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07-13-2011 | 05:52 PM
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If we do go to a three pilot committee, there are at least three pilots on the current committee, that will make great members of the newly elected committee as well.
07-13-2011 | 05:57 PM
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For those of you who were in Minneapolis on December 17, 2010, you'll recall that 17 inches of snow in a short period caused the Metrodome (home of the Vikings) roof to collapse:
I was scheduled to fly that day, cancelled, and barely made it back to my crashpad with 4-wheel drive pickups and 18-wheelers stuck all over the sides of the road.
After 7 months the roof is finally replaced:
Metrodome roof up again, nearly ready for Vikings | masslive.com
I was scheduled to fly that day, cancelled, and barely made it back to my crashpad with 4-wheel drive pickups and 18-wheelers stuck all over the sides of the road.
After 7 months the roof is finally replaced:
Metrodome roof up again, nearly ready for Vikings | masslive.com
07-13-2011 | 06:18 PM
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As you can guess I talk to everyone I fly with about what they want. As I recently told my LEC Chair, it is simple:
TO can state this in a two paragraph letter. "Pilots, we hear you, we see you, and we will fight for what you want. We have heard loud and clear that scope is not for sale, that you want not just a great job, but a great career, and your goal of restoring that career is job one for this MEC."
One run-on sentence like that and DPA dies, the pilot become unified, and our leverage goes through the roof. As I further stated to my LEC Char, legally worded letters are just irritating pilots to no end. The want leaders who will carry their water. You may argue that you currently see and do this, but when the pilots do not believe it, the communication is failing somewhere.
Call DPA whatever you want, but they have 25% of the pilots here sending in cards. If I were a rep or working for the Admin, that would get my attention. There are plenty of guys like Bar out there that are just as frustrated at what they see, but will not support a new union. I would venture to guess that it is at least another 30-40% of this group. In the last four months I have only flown with one pilot who thought that ALPA (DALPA) completely and totally had their back. I fly with a lot of the "silent majority" that we often hear about, and frankly, they are more upset than the web board malcontent. I mean that. I have been just floored at what they want to see as a min. in this Section 6. I hope they have the gumption to put it in the survey.
The point to my post is, even with all of the communication, contract comparisons, etc, guys are feeling that they are being managed, and they are over it. They want their union to state what I have said above. Do this, and I cannot see one more card going to DPA. This Admin needs to take the position that all of the reps ran on. It is not a stretch, and by not doing this, this last year, all of that communication has effectively done nothing.
This is what I hear and see every day with everyone I fly with. From 1983 hires to 2007 hires. The only one that was content was a 1985 hire. I get an ear full when the realize that I actually talk to the Reps.
TO can state this in a two paragraph letter. "Pilots, we hear you, we see you, and we will fight for what you want. We have heard loud and clear that scope is not for sale, that you want not just a great job, but a great career, and your goal of restoring that career is job one for this MEC."
One run-on sentence like that and DPA dies, the pilot become unified, and our leverage goes through the roof. As I further stated to my LEC Char, legally worded letters are just irritating pilots to no end. The want leaders who will carry their water. You may argue that you currently see and do this, but when the pilots do not believe it, the communication is failing somewhere.
Call DPA whatever you want, but they have 25% of the pilots here sending in cards. If I were a rep or working for the Admin, that would get my attention. There are plenty of guys like Bar out there that are just as frustrated at what they see, but will not support a new union. I would venture to guess that it is at least another 30-40% of this group. In the last four months I have only flown with one pilot who thought that ALPA (DALPA) completely and totally had their back. I fly with a lot of the "silent majority" that we often hear about, and frankly, they are more upset than the web board malcontent. I mean that. I have been just floored at what they want to see as a min. in this Section 6. I hope they have the gumption to put it in the survey.
The point to my post is, even with all of the communication, contract comparisons, etc, guys are feeling that they are being managed, and they are over it. They want their union to state what I have said above. Do this, and I cannot see one more card going to DPA. This Admin needs to take the position that all of the reps ran on. It is not a stretch, and by not doing this, this last year, all of that communication has effectively done nothing.
This is what I hear and see every day with everyone I fly with. From 1983 hires to 2007 hires. The only one that was content was a 1985 hire. I get an ear full when the realize that I actually talk to the Reps.
Good post.
Carl
07-13-2011 | 06:31 PM
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I think what makes the RAH situation unique is the fact that the NMB declared them a "single carrier" for pilot representation purposes even though they operate on a number of certificates. This is what I have heartburn with.
AA and American Eagle may both be under AMR but they have not been given that "single carrier" designation by the NMB.
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