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07-08-2011 | 06:38 PM

#70241

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From: Urban chicken rancher.

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Originally Posted by cni187

We got to see the shuttle blasting off as we were on approach into Orlando. Just thought I'd pitch in with a little coolness.

Actually, that was DAL 1060, MCO to LAX.

07-08-2011 | 07:07 PM

#70242

Bill Lumberg

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Originally Posted by Mesabah

This is the rumor we have been hearing at pinnacle. Also, today we took on another Frontier executive here at 9E.

It just won't happen without our consent. Unless the pilots on the E190 are Delta Mainline pilots on our list, with mainline wages, it most likely won't pass, even close. They can also give the rest of us Southwest 737 wages for our 737s and more for our larger planes at the same time, along with tighter scope on other parts of scope.

07-08-2011 | 07:42 PM

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From: Light Chop

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

It's an average of 13.464 years for all of the international fleet and here is the break out of the individual fleet from the April 1, 2011 count:

747-400 . Fleet Total: 16 . Average Age 17.6
757-200 . Fleet Total: 33 . Average Age 14.1
767-300ER . Fleet Total: 58 . Average Age 15.3
767-400ER . Fleet Total: 21 . Average Age 10.3
777-200 . Fleet Total: 8 . Average Age 11.5
777-200LR . Fleet Total: 10 . Average Age 2.3
A330-200 . Fleet Total: 11 . Average Age 6.3
A330-300 . Fleet Total: 12. Average Age 5.9
Total 169

The 13.464 is running all of the aircraft listed in the international fleet dates vs todays date. It's not an average of the numbers above.

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Originally Posted by slowplay

I think you might have transposed the A333 number (21 vice 12) That would raise the total you have listed to 178 aircraft. The management slides that I was looking at are from a the investor relations site and a presentation to Wall Street that showed 175 airplanes. The current active fleet shows 169 with only 25 757ER. I don't know if that changes the age much, so take it FWIW.

Yep you're right. Read A330-300 fleet total 21. Total A330s are 32. Total ocean crossing fleet 178.

The average age was a separate calculation and stays the same.

Now average age is probably not the best indication of what airplane falls off the cliff first at least within our fleet. Someone once mentioned we may have wasted cycles running these airplanes on domestic runs for years before GH turned them out over the ocean and that they could hit their cycle limits before their hour limits.

I really don't know if that is true or not.

07-08-2011 | 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Just to echo what someone said earlier.. with our company's actions as of late, it sounds like the company is back to listening to the bean counters that don't know what they are doing instead of GH's brilliance. I am very very concerned with our tiptoeing around as of late just to jingle some keys in front of shareholders.

07-08-2011 | 08:15 PM

#70245

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So I ended up an additional number farther back on the projected category list than I counted on the AE, and the projected list document on the alpa site agreed with my math. This is in a new category of only 51... how could that happen?

07-08-2011 | 08:34 PM

#70246

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Originally Posted by poostain

Been on the dc-9, (737 other life) and i am on the 7er now. BUT the best seat and most comfort i ever had was on the airbus, its a back problem pilots dream.

The A320 seats are very comfortable unless you are doing a long flight. All of our over water equipped ones have the very crappy and uncomfortable ferry seats. No electrics and extremely poor lumbar support. The airplanes that have the electric seats are great however, I never seem to get those when the flight time is over 2 hrs.

07-08-2011 | 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jabberwock

Hilarious to see you screw yourself into the roof with this one. In the past ten years ALPA's always held scope sales to try to bring up pay. They're addicted to that stuff.

With assurances of furlough protection and promises of growth facilitated through outsourcing a lot of you morons will sign right up for the same crap you've been voting for a decade now.

The Delta MEC mostly has this contract to fluff their bed for retirement. They don't give a crap what happens to this place, or you. Picket the MEC, picket the union, they don't care, they don't even like unions. They like free meals, booze, trip drops and pay checks that help them keep up with college tuition costs while still retiring like an esquire, they're entitled you know.

You want to keep your job ... that's your problem.

The '96 Delta contract proves your point.

07-08-2011 | 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Of note, Glen has been very quiet lately.

Also, the AF/DAL JV's assumption is that one stop connections will work this fall in Europe. If you look at the cuts, they are designed to keep the AF 380 and 777's full. We got ORD-CDG to keep the JV ESK's relatively equal (With in the limits of the JV) but the goal was to have more connecting traffic out of CDG.
You may also see more International Cuts announced for this fall in the next few weeks.

So where does that leve us? A stagnant domestic fleet "maybe" getting as many 90's as 9's are leaving, and significant culling of international. Do we have a plan or are we really thinking we can shrink to prosperity by abandoning marketshare and letting every third world airline and day 1 start up run amuck and just hoping our retirements absorb the drawdown as we fade away?

07-08-2011 | 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Visibility is improving ... one very possible scenario ... hope that I am wrong

Scope negotiations are probably holding up the Delta Request for Proposal. It makes more sense to operate the E190, a type already operated off the property there than here.
The this to be actionable on the MEC level means a deal is probably already hammered out.
Best way to deal with this is going to be a push for membership ratification.
The RFP will be used as a distraction ... hey look over here new big airplanes & promises ... while DCI grows.

Jabber might have been making fun but, the unfortunate sign is our MEC is more addicted to scope sales than ever. Like most addicts this will be the "last time" just as Moak's side agreement was the "last time" that cleared up that (without MEMRAT) and as was each and every concessionary allowance.

I may be out on a limb, but I'm thinking the RFP pushed a scope negotiation. As written in the Compass presentation the risk of not taking the E175 was that the TYPE would be outsourced up to its full capacities. If true, the first thing we must do is get this to the membership for a vote.

Hey guys, we can operate these airplanes here. Give us a chance.

I absolutely see why you would "go there" but why would RA say, up front, that everything in the RFP, from C-ceries to EMB's, would be flown by mainline pilots? Only to then take that away all for replacement airframes as we shrink? Where's the carrot? Where's even the distraction? 88's replaced with NEO's? OK, cool, I guess we all like glass magic or whatever, but is that the carrot we are supposed to fall for? Give up more jobs and we'll give you more glass? Shiney glass syndrome? Because if thats not it, the only other carrot they could possibly have would be spinning it as growth and I can't see them even being able to spin the statistics to convince 1% of us that is what is happening, much less 51%.