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forgot to bid 07-19-2011 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by The Chow (Post 1025040)
Because the MD-88's have steam gauges and regional pilots are not qualified to fly those. :eek:

Tis true. They're used to flying in a plane that has real fly-by-wire and not fly-by-cable-by-tabs and one that knows when it has entered ice and automatically turns on all of the anti-icing systems which all run simultaneously versus an airplane you have to look at the windshield wiper to see if your accumulating ice and if so turn on the one at a time anti-ice system.

So 5 weeks instead of 4, for step backwards training.

EMB-175 "Guppy Killer" or "The DC-9 Killer"
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8813/dsc04028j.jpg

acl65pilot 07-19-2011 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 1025022)
This post reminded me of the rumor that Boeing is going to buy the NATCO building.

Ya know I heard that one too. That one surfaced about three weeks before the announced the closure of NATCO.

Boomer 07-19-2011 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1025039)
Although to grow RAH is to save Frontier... who flies Airbuses. Odd we're in the business of saving other airlines.

This may be overly simplistic in the world of finance, but I would add that Delta has saved USAir twice in the last decade by laundering money through RAH.

firstmob 07-19-2011 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1025032)
American Airlines?s Management Lean Toward Airbus, WSJ Says - Bloomberg

American Airlines’s Management Lean Toward Airbus, WSJ Says
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By Chris Peterson - Jul 19, 2011 5:17 AM ET

Management at AMR Corp. (AMR)’s American Airlines is leaning towards Airbus and may recommend buying the European planemaker’s jetliners over Boeing Co. (BA) to replace its short-haul fleet, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter.
AMR’s board is due to meet tomorrow and may make a decision on 200 aircraft with a book value of $20 billion; American Airlines’ management will recommend picking Airbus, although last-minute talks may take place, the newspaper said.

Looks like we let AMR pick first and then we pressure the loser to give us a better deal.

acl65pilot 07-19-2011 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1025053)
Tis true. They're used to flying in a plane that has real fly-by-wire and not fly-by-cable-by-tabs and one that knows when it has entered ice and automatically turns on all of the anti-icing systems which all run simultaneously versus an airplane you have to look at the windshield wiper to see if your accumulating ice and if so turn on the one at a time anti-ice system.

So 5 weeks instead of 4, for step backwards training.

EMB-175
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8813/dsc04028j.jpg

I'd sure fly that in a DAL uniform on the DAL seniority list.

acl65pilot 07-19-2011 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1025037)
Who was it that said in so many words that RJ outsourcing is good for Delta pilots? Was it really LM or someone else?

One simple question - where does it stop? Couldn't RAH fly MD88s cheaper than we could? Could they fly A320s cheaper than we could? 737s cheaper than we could?

I'm sure a few feeble minded individuals would think they couldn't do it because those are bigger jets and harder to fly. That's idiotic and a nonstarter. They could do it in a month. Just like us. And I mean in both seats. A plane is a plane and if anyone has flown a turboprop then they've flown airplanes more difficult than any of our mainline fleet.

So why if outsourcing is good for Delta pilots do we draw the line at 76 seats and below is okay to outsource?

Why do we not outsource MD-88s?

Frankly, I think DAL would be willing to outsource everything below 150 seats. It would save their debt ledger billions in debt service, and reward them with a better credit rating. All of that pesky debt instantly becomes a operational expense and is no longer debt for DAL. Add to this, currently the regional airlines get better financing rates that Ma Delta does.

1234 07-19-2011 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1024838)
That's what she said? But srsly, we need a significant overhaul of our sick and vacation systems. Vacation flat out sucks hard and pays next to nothing. I don't think we need a lawyer-ball touch drop system, but we need at least 10-15 hours per week more credit. That alone would fix most of the vacation shortcomings. For sick, we need to change the use it or lose it part, as both the company and pilot group loses out for multipile reasons. All except those who are both extremely and abnormally healthy, consistently over time, and extremely honest. They lose out the most and that isn't right.

Gloopy, I agree with you completely except for the part above in bold. I would change that to "extremely lucky" because I would consider someone to have been very lucky to no use sick time. They maybe got sick while on days off, or where healthy for a year but to say someone is extremely honest because they didn't call in sick begs the question, were they honest or did they actually go to work and fly while sick? I am not harping on you, but this is the exact attitude that many in management have is that the only pilots that are honest are the ones that never call in sick.

DAL 88 Driver 07-19-2011 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1025051)
Honestly. It is and was. I saw AAI for what it is, and I saw significant stagnation at LUV. Charting my career progression I actually fair better here than LUV.

You don't know that for a fact. Again, you are relying on your "crystal ball" for that. One thing I can tell you from having been in this industry for a long time... you can never predict with certainty what will happen. All you can do is make the best decision you can with the information you have at the time. Sounds like you've done that. Good luck!

For now, I would have to question your decision to pass on SWA. As you rightly point out, they have a management that really knows how to manage. Extremely important consideration! And you MIGHT make Captain faster here. But in the meantime, the average SWA First Officer is making more than I did last year as a Delta Captain and WAY more than the average Delta First Officer! :eek: Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it was a bad decision for sure. When you reach age 65, you'll have your answer. :)

1234 07-19-2011 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1025051)
Honestly. It is and was. I saw AAI for what it is, and I saw significant stagnation at LUV. Charting my career progression I actually fair better here than LUV. As for AAI, well I would have had to work for AAI before it merged with Value Jet, and that was not something I wanted to do. It would have led to better money, and LUV, but who really knows.


I thought you were one of these young whipper snappers. Were you qualified to fly for Value Jet before they merged?

acl65pilot 07-19-2011 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 1025066)
I thought you were one of these young whipper snappers. Were you qualified to fly for Value Jet before they merged?

I would have been in my early/mid 20's but I had the time and the connections there in the mid/late 90's. They basically offered my a job, but everyone that worked there told me they were going in the toilet, so I passed. I was referring to AAI in FL not Valuejet in ATL.I never even thought of them. Next thing I know they bought AAI and took their name. It would have been an interesting turn of events, but I never applied to the new AAI.

Not as young as some on here but I am still South of 40.


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