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Originally Posted by Columbia
(Post 1024989)
Remember, pilots are assets as well. ;)
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
(Post 1025009)
Well said, ACL. Almost sounds like I could have written it... :D
Again, well said and I completely agree. But you turned down Southwest??? :eek: Turned down AAI in the 90's as well. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1025018)
Yep, I did.
Turned down AAI in the 90's as well. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1024926)
Another big loss on "outsourced" flying, although this is own own subsidiary, so the losses are all ours.Now, lets see how much the Airport Board flips the property to the TSA for.
New on the HLN Channel, "flip this Airline Headquarters." But this should be viewed for what it is, an ABSOLUTE STRATEGIC FAILURE by Delta management. They paid $2,500,000,000.00 for Comair, took a $600,000,000 strike, then got mad about that and decided to outsource their own subsidiary's work, destroying the value of their own asset. The real cost of this mismanagement is over 10 billion when the cost of the airplanes are included. WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE? How different would our contract be if we had $10 billion sitting in the bank? For you senior guys that think "scope does not matter" what about the idiotic things our management does to take advantage of what we allow? Our airline works harder at trying to figure out how not to fly, than it does running a good operation. The result is the loss of billions. |
The Airbus line gets longer
American Airlines?s Management Lean Toward Airbus, WSJ Says - Bloomberg
American Airlines’s Management Lean Toward Airbus, WSJ Says Q By Chris Peterson - Jul 19, 2011 5:17 AM ET Management at AMR Corp. (AMR)’s American Airlines is leaning towards Airbus and may recommend buying the European planemaker’s jetliners over Boeing Co. (BA) to replace its short-haul fleet, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter. AMR’s board is due to meet tomorrow and may make a decision on 200 aircraft with a book value of $20 billion; American Airlines’ management will recommend picking Airbus, although last-minute talks may take place, the newspaper said. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1024926)
How different would our contract be if we had $10 billion sitting in the bank?
It's a miracle they have any billions left to grow RAH. |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1024958)
Once and for all folks: RECAPTURING SCOPE WILL NOT COST THE COMPANY MONEY...IT WILL SAVE THEM MONEY. They won't believe it no matter what, but a strike might be what's necessary to explain it to them.
Carl One simple question - where does it stop? Couldn't RAH fly MD88s cheaper than we could? Could they fly A320s cheaper than we could? 737s cheaper than we could? I'm sure a few feeble minded individuals would think they couldn't do it because those are bigger jets and harder to fly. That's idiotic and a nonstarter. They could do it in a month. Just like us. And I mean in both seats. A plane is a plane and if anyone has flown a turboprop then they've flown airplanes more difficult than any of our mainline fleet. So why if outsourcing is good for Delta pilots do we draw the line at 76 seats and below is okay to outsource? Why do we not outsource MD-88s? |
Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 1025035)
Delta spent a good deal of cash to purchase Comair, spent a good deal of cash to improve Comair, and is spending a good deal of cash to dismantle Comair.
It's a miracle they have any billions left to grow RAH. 10 points. Although to grow RAH is to save Frontier... who flies Airbuses. Odd we're in the business of saving other airlines. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1025037)
Who was it that said in so many words that RJ outsourcing is good for Delta pilots? Was it really LM or someone else?
One simple question - where does it stop? Couldn't RAH fly MD88s cheaper than we could? Could they fly A320s cheaper than we could? 737s cheaper than we could? I'm sure a few feeble minded individuals would think they couldn't do it because those are bigger jets and harder to fly. That's idiotic and a nonstarter. They could do it in a month. Just like us. And I mean in both seats. A plane is a plane and if anyone has flown a turboprop then they've flown airplanes more difficult than any of our mainline fleet. So why if outsourcing is good for Delta pilots do we draw the line at 76 seats and below is okay to outsource? Why do we not outsource MD-88s? Because the MD-88's have steam gauges and regional pilots are not qualified to fly those. :eek: |
Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
(Post 1025020)
Sounds like your crystal ball isn't any better than mine! :D
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