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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1031877)
Before we jump on things here... has the AirTran MEC even approved this to go to a vote?
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Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 1031882)
No. SWAPA has their side letter already. The final AirTran language isn't done.
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
(Post 1031878)
BTW, while DPMA would gladly take our money, the bet was to go to the Delta Pilots Charitable Fund, not DPMA.
DPMA, DPCF, what's a couple of alphabet soups amongst colleagues. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1031791)
Until DAL gets its house in order from a customer service prospective which so far management has been a failure at I would not expect great things. If Cal management can bring their customer service to UAL things might get ugly. On the other hand from talking to a couple of Airtran guys ATL is going to be really difficult for SW after management jumped into the SLI list and is using the gun to the head method to force ratification. The SW culture wont exist there for a very long time even if the list is ratified.
Because I think a turf war will inevitably require we clean up customer service and maybe start putting more money into the front line folks and that's good for us. Otherwise without the trash talking SWA will bring, we will have status quo on our end. For instance, how nice would it be if SWA handles IROPS in ATL better than we do and that becomes known? Then hopefully we will begin to make meaningful changes to our IROPS. That kind of stuff. And if it's all a ruse on SWA's part, that's icing on the cake. |
Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 1031882)
No. SWAPA has their side letter already. The final AirTran language isn't done.
1. If the MEC even allows that travesty to go to a vote. (a good pay raise in exchange for throwing their pilot group's seniority under a monster truck) 2. If the MEC does allow it to go for a vote, whether or not they "promote" it. |
Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
(Post 1031875)
scambo, I ALWAYS pay my bets; but you've offered zero evidence that "ALPA threw AirTran under the bus". If their MEC Chairman, or others on the MEC felt that ALPA National screwed them (purportedly to gain favor with SWAPA), I'll gladly pay up.
As it is, you are standing on the outside, with your preconceived version of what was fair, and this integration didn't achieve it. Frankly, it didn't for me either. But you and I are both on the outside, we don't get a vote nor even input. So, to say ALPA National through them under the bus --- nope. Absent evidence, I think it is YOU that owes the $100. We were in agreement on what was fair...privately. We both agree that it was not what we thought would be "fair." Can someone post the Air Tran merger fragementation language again? If it wasn't followed, ALPA did some screwin'. |
Anybody know if a list of the early out guys has been published and where it is posted????:confused:
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Originally Posted by Jesse
(Post 1031736)
The few DALPA guys I've flown with (both former and active) tell me profit sharing is the way to go, and that I shouldn't expect a significant (for me that means 20% or more) increase in pay (day 1).
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Was one of the recommendations to the scheduling team have anything to do with modifying the RAW system? I as just wondering why we can't have a sort of rolling RAW system that doesn't reset at the beginning of the month. Going back to 0 on day one without a spill over can kick ya in the nards.
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Originally Posted by JABDIP
(Post 1031902)
Anybody know if a list of the early out guys has been published and where it is posted????:confused:
There are also lists posted in both ATL pilot lounges. |
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