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Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1026207)
speaking of unity, lets unify for a pigpile on 80kts for posting oversize pictures:( |
Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 1026109)
Hi Carl,
I'm not a DPA supporter, BUT there can be only two reasons for ole' screamin' Alfa to post this stuff: 1) They've figured out that a majority of DPA cards are from fDAL guys, with a fair majority from ATL. The SLI thing is all that's left to spook them. 2) He really believes that there is something actionable in the SLI. Sadly, we DO have pilots that have experience suing their own pilot groups. These guys were never shy about what they were doing. But suing over something like a SLI takes BIG bucks, and if they were really serious, there would have already been some major fundraising going on. So the chances that this is going and and is some big secret is zero. Also considering the statute of limitations and the time elapsed, these guys would need to be ready to go really soon, so they'd already need to have their nut collected. Since pilots are notoriously bad at keeping secrets, the chances that the who, what, where, when, why and how of those involved is a secret is also zero. Considering that the TWA thing was dismissed as nothing but a nuisance, the fact that Alfa is making noise about a SLI suit must mean there is some concern as to the actionability Now we all know that the above is absurd. So it must be just playing the fear card. If ALPA is so secure in their position, then it should be a no brainer to go face to face and put all this stuff to rest once and for all. All this other crap just reeks of insecurity in the Flat Earth Society. Nu First, there can't be any lawsuits about the SLI, the statute of limitations has passed, you acknowledge this. Doesn't stop you from divining secret motives and plans anyway. Second, seniority is not a personal right it lives in the contract only and so it is always a subject of negotiation, although it rarely is. So your ranting about lawsuits and liability is just ignorant fluff, you don't understand the landscape, yet that doesn't stop you from bloviating anyway. Maybe you do need those law courses. There is no secret liability, no one is scared of a lawsuit, one was filed and it was settled for a fraction of legal fees. Lawsuits are over. United Airlines renegotiated their seniority list after the 1985 strike, it is not a fantasy it actually happened. USAPA right now is trying to renegotiate their seniority list, don't act like this is an impossibility. I said that DPA is amorphous and ever changing. If they fail to meet their objectives or if they select a path that people don't like, they merely need to change the website and they are now new and improved. What that means is that DPA is all things to all people. I said was some DPA members view DPA as a tool to change the SLI, a view that was corroborated by DPA insider Carl. I never said that DPA's mission was to change the SLI, I said anyone can put any face on DPA they want. It was Carl and the rest of the DPA shills that went in High PRF mode about this issue. I just sit back and watch laughing as they make themselves look stupid. Finally, every thing I posted was 100% factual and backed up by evidence in federal courts. There is a record of thousands and thousands of pages of this and is not some made up fiction. Some like to wallow in their ignorance of the facts and go on pure spite (Carl) while others like to actually read the source documents and work from a basis of fact. Seniority is negotiable, DPA's attorney says that negotiating seniority is the same as any other section of the contract, DPA's attorney says that date of hire is the gold standard for seniority integrations. All of these are pure facts, indisputable, backed up by hard evidence. Make what you will of it, but you can't erase the facts, as hard as you try. |
Thanks alfa, the more you scream your nonsense the better DPA look for a lot of folks on here. The true desperation had to come out....
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1026137)
ALPA's history UP UNTIL ABOUT 15 TO 20 YEARS AGO was a proud one. Since then, not.
Carl Indeed old friend that was an easy time in the airline industry. We both remember it. Impossible to understand why ALPA disappointed anyone with so few challenges at that time. Lorenzo, Icahn, Braniff, Checchi, Eastern, Gulf War1, Privatization of European Carriers, Fall of USSR, etc. Yup, calm waters to navigate! |
Originally Posted by LuvJockey
(Post 1024766)
Quick question - will there be a special assessment at DALPA for the TWA judgement? If so, would a DAPA vote immunize you from it?
You guys at Delta had better get that pay raise soon or else SWAPA will demand a staple when the COH (Cult of Herb) buys out the other little operation in ATL. I just made 5 G's straight time in 3 days ON RESERVE in the left seat. My watch is enormous. Your contract sucks. Standby... nope. I'm in the right place. :D Luv has a great question here and wow, 5G on 3 days of reserve! Gosh, I make 5G a month and fly a bigger plane. There is lot's of good to come from the SWA/FL merger. Lots. It's like a gift from Heaven that your competitor just got bought out by your trash talking, nearly double paid (given mission type) and full scope airline. |
"My watch is enormous" equals my 8===D is tiny
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Originally Posted by poostain
(Post 1026318)
"My watch is enormous" equals my 8===D is tiny
"WE'RE TOO CLOSE" STAY ON TARGET! Btw, when you make 747 pay you can buy love. Especially if you don't need 25+ years but just say... 10? Yikes. |
Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
(Post 1026021)
Bar, I was very much a supporter of "unity and scope restoration"....However I realized that you and I are in the minority...You decided to bail to Delta, and I decided to circle my wagons here at ASA...We are BOTH victims of several decades of failed ALPA policy. I respect you and your opinion, and I understand why you don't respect my position...There was only so long that I was going to attack those windmills....I am now focused on growing my company as you should be focused on growing your company....That puts on opposite sides of the fence...This is the huge failure of this "ALPA apartheid"...Much like the civil war, both sides have a good point...
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1026032)
Well stated
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Originally Posted by FlyingViking
(Post 1026293)
Thanks alfa, the more you scream your nonsense the better DPA look for a lot of folks on here. The true desperation had to come out....
Nu |
Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 1025903)
Thanks Columbia.
If legacy guys don't get "Animal House" references, I better start rethinking my career goals! :D Boomer, Don't sweat it - I think it is more of a generational thing. Just another example of Father Time having his way with us all. Scoop |
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