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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1026111)
Because Delta pilots (like NWA pilots and others) caved in to management fear tactics and allowed scope to erode. It wasn't supposed to be that way. Management promised that it would make the majors grow. They promised nobody would get furloughed and even gave us an "iron-clad" no furlough clause. The rest is history.
We were idiots for ever believing management. We should have known that they only ever wanted to outsource our labor to cheaper and more unqualified pilots...like you. Carl Why would you agree to outsource any flying in the first place....Are you an idiot? |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1026116)
Nah, my only problem is with those few Delta pilots who are still madly in love with ALPA. The rest are really cool. Even at Delta, there's always a few JoeMerchant's that slip through the interview process. Other CMR pilots that see your posts must just cringe. Because I'm sure they realize that any pilot interviewing board that was looking at a Comair applicant would secretly be mortified by the thought: "Could this guy be JoeMerchant?"
Carl By the way, I'm not madly in love with ALPA anymore...I don't even wear the pin anymore....They have been a total failure....At least we have that in common.... |
Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 1026109)
Hi Carl,
I'm not a DPA supporter, BUT there can be only two reasons for ole' screamin' Alfa to post this stuff: 1) They've figured out that a majority of DPA cards are from fDAL guys, with a fair majority from ATL. The SLI thing is all that's left to spook them. 2) He really believes that there is something actionable in the SLI. Sadly, we DO have pilots that have experience suing their own pilot groups. These guys were never shy about what they were doing. But suing over something like a SLI takes BIG bucks, and if they were really serious, there would have already been some major fundraising going on. So the chances that this is going and and is some big secret is zero. Also considering the statute of limitations and the time elapsed, these guys would need to be ready to go really soon, so they'd already need to have their nut collected. Since pilots are notoriously bad at keeping secrets, the chances that the who, what, where, when, why and how of those involved is a secret is also zero. Considering that the TWA thing was dismissed as nothing but a nuisance, the fact that Alfa is making noise about a SLI suit must mean there is some concern as to the actionability Now we all know that the above is absurd. So it must be just playing the fear card. If ALPA is so secure in their position, then it should be a no brainer to go face to face and put all this stuff to rest once and for all. All this other crap just reeks of insecurity in the Flat Earth Society. Nu Carl |
Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
(Post 1026117)
Nice revisionist history Carl....The AA B scale, outsourcing to regionals, age 60 was all about "ME"....Pilots do what is best for number 1...and number 1 ain't you...sorry, but thems the facts, and any ALPA/APA/Airline history follower knows the score....
Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
(Post 1026117)
Why would you agree to outsource any flying in the first place....
Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
(Post 1026117)
Are you an idiot?
Carl |
Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL
(Post 1026001)
Sparkler,
That is extremely offensive to suggest that all 5000 fNWA pilots support DPA. It is also offensive to suggest that the fDAL pilots who do couldn't figure out they don't like ALPA all on their own. DPA fails on it's own lack of merits but commentary like yours, likely from an ALPA operative probably wins more converts than it turns away. I don't believe 5000 North pilots support DPA. Nor do I deny there are reasons for pilots to be frustrated with alpa at times. There is a question of the baby and the bathwater however. I'm just noting that if someone wanted to collect 50%+1 cards, the North numbers would not be sufficient. So I am saying that it's a possibility that some pilots could be enticed to support DPA for one reason, when in fact the DPA wants the pilots' support for an entirely different (and unstated) reason. It's a possibility and based on hearing it in two unrelated places, I have started to wonder if it's more than just a possibility. I never even considered it until I overheard a guy talking about it in the pilot lounge and then another guy posted it on the alpa web boards. The concept was (this is almost a direct quote) "If you don't think the SLI was fair, one way to remedy it now is to get longevity-based pay." When I heard it, I was shocked I never thought of it myself! It would basically make everyone's pay track along DOH lines rather than seniority numbers. For example, it wouldn't bother "pilot A" as much that B is senior because A's DOH means A gets paid more than B. The truth is longevity pay does somewhat mitigate the impact of seniority numbers on one's paycheck. And the truth is that might appeal to someone who wants to mitigate the affect of an SLI that did not go the way they'd wished. And the truth is I have heard a couple of DPA guys come out and advocate for longevity-pay as a means to dilute the significance of seniority numbers. I don't mean to offend you or anyone else. But my facts are accurate and my reasoning is sound. My style of communication may not always be as diplomatic as the circumstances call for (and I am sorry for that) but I do believe I communicate in a factual, non-inflammatory manner. |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1026123)
Again, you're totally clueless of ALPA's long history. Up until about 15 to 20 years ago, it really was an association that didn't just care about #1. There's lots of history you could read, if you were actually interested.
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1026116)
Other CMR pilots that see your posts must just cringe. Because I'm sure they realize that any pilot interviewing board that was looking at a Comair applicant would secretly be mortified by the thought: "Could this guy be JoeMerchant?"
Carl If Joe Merchant was at Comair, he'd be complaining about how he needs to bid back to First Officer so he can stay in CVG, and how 17 years are not enough to get a weekend off or hold a line. Basically, he'd be begging for a staple. |
Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 1026133)
Joe Merchant is a 17 year ASA Captain.
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
(Post 1026131)
You mean the "association" that opposed age 60 retirement before it supported it, before it opposed it...How about the "crew compliment" issue? How about the total failure on scope...
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1026123)
Again, you're totally clueless of ALPA's long history. Up until about 15 to 20 years ago, it really was an association that didn't just care about #1. There's lots of history you could read, if you were actually interested.
Do you just start responding before you even read the post? Carl |
Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 1026133)
Actually, every Comair pilot is secretly wondering if the Delta interviewer is Captain Spackler... the only Delta pilot that doesn't know Joe Merchant is a 17 year ASA Captain.
Carl |
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