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Denny Crane 05-28-2011 11:10 AM


Nosmo,

Yeah, for once I did just get in just under the wire (with TMobile)!

That article leaves me with more questions than answers..........

Denny

Phuz 05-28-2011 12:45 PM

Trans states is planning to set up the same RAH/Frontier-esque operation with their MRJ orders. They will staff it with GoJets pilots, and now they have precedent that says its a-ok with major airline scope clauses and their respective unions to go ahead and run a self-branded operation that is funded by regional contracts with the very majors they compete against. That 100 seat geared turbo fan is coming to take your jobs, and you guys are sitting their with your thumbs up your asses because you have it so well.

"the union says nothin we can do, i guess we'll just do nothin"

.. no respect

DAL 88 Driver 05-28-2011 12:50 PM

Anybody heard anything about one of our DC-9's that had a fire in the tail today? My father in law just called to tell me he heard something about it on the news. I can't find anything. Maybe it was just NewK with the afterburners lit? :D

FmrFreightDog 05-28-2011 12:51 PM

Fox News is showing footage of an MD-88 that just landed in ATL with what sounds like a fire in the tail section. Tailcone is popped, and they're hosing it down. Pax evacuating, many pulling their rollaboards with them :rolleyes:.

Ed Harley 05-28-2011 01:22 PM


This article is not written well. And did anyone read the comments below the article? Why is it always the Microsoft flight simulator "pilots" that feel compelled to write grossly inaccurate comments on professional aviation issues? This accident is not just "pilot error" and the same as the Buffalo Colgon crash. Major contibuting factors to the accident were a design flaw in the Thales pitot tube and inadequate pilot training on Air Frances part to handle the malfunction.

DAL 88 Driver 05-28-2011 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog (Post 1000038)
Fox News is showing footage of an MD-88 that just landed in ATL with what sounds like a fire in the tail section. Tailcone is popped, and they're hosing it down. Pax evacuating, many pulling their rollaboards with them :rolleyes:.

Just saw a clip on Fox News. Looks to me like a fire in the right main landing gear area and I could see passengers sliding down the tailcone slide. One report I saw indicated a blown tire on landing. I'm guessing a brake fire.

I blew a tire on landing in the 88 once. The degradation to braking effectiveness with one blown tire was very eye opening. Had to go back into heavy reverse thrust to get the aircraft stopped within the runway. And the braking effort with only one tire on that side resulted in substantial damage to the remaining tire. I could see this scenario easily resulting in a brake fire.

Nosmo King 05-28-2011 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Ed Harley (Post 1000046)
This article is not written well. And did anyone read the comments below the article? Why is it always the Microsoft flight simulator "pilots" that feel compelled to write grossly inaccurate comments on professional aviation issues? This accident is not just "pilot error" and the same as the Buffalo Colgon crash. Major contibuting factors to the accident were a design flaw in the Thales pitot tube and inadequate pilot training on Air Frances part to handle the malfunction.

Thats why I posted the link to the English version of the report at the bottom.
It's basically a recap of the events in the cockpit and the performance of the aircraft.

forgot to bid 05-28-2011 01:56 PM

3 injured and engine catches fire after MD-88 hard landing
MyFoxAtlanta.com

May 28: Fire crews work to douse the plane after a hard landing at Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport.
Three people were injured during a hard landing at Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport that caused the plane's engine to catch fire, according to MyFoxAtlanta.com.

Federal Aviation Administration Spokesperson Kathleen Bergen told the website Saturday that Delta flight 2284 from Pittsburgh was landing in Atlanta when its tire blew. This is what caused the fire.

Passengers quickly evacuated by using emergency slides and the backstairs.*

Fire crews used foam spray to douse the flames.*

The FAA and the National Transportation Safety Board will be investigating the incident.

newKnow 05-28-2011 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1000052)
3 injured and engine catches fire after MD-88 hard landing
MyFoxAtlanta.com

May 28: Fire crews work to douse the plane after a hard landing at Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport.
Three people were injured during a hard landing at Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport that caused the plane's engine to catch fire, according to MyFoxAtlanta.com.

Federal Aviation Administration Spokesperson Kathleen Bergen told the website Saturday that Delta flight 2284 from Pittsburgh was landing in Atlanta when its tire blew. This is what caused the fire.

Passengers quickly evacuated by using emergency slides and the backstairs.*

Fire crews used foam spray to douse the flames.*

The FAA and the National Transportation Safety Board will be investigating the incident.

The hard landing cause the engine to catch fire?

When it's tire blew, that's what caused the fire?

Um. What? :confused:

acl65pilot 05-28-2011 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 999856)
That is what gets me. We get assurances that it doesn't violate our contract but our reps are not telling us exactly what the lawyers told them. I want to hear WHY it doesn't violate our section 1.

I do too. Ask your reps and see what they say.


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