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dragon 08-01-2011 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1032434)
To all of my L&G Bubbas. I apologize for venting so strongly here during the last couple of days. I am sure it is clear to all where I stand on the issues as they relate to ALPA. For me and maybe others, this SWA AT merger was to be a defining moment for my final position on ALPA. I honestly did not want it to go the way that it did and hoped ALPA would do something to help in the fairness department for AT. I have in the past had the same hopes for us in regard to scope.

My opinions and conclusions are mine and I am not trying to sway anyone. I am just a guy speaking my mind in as truthful a way as I can. If it got too inflammatory I'm sorry. Noone told me to write this, I just didnt want to be a downer on the thread.

It's all good Scambo. Keep posting. If we all agreed, this would be a truly boring place. I happen to agree with you a bunch more than others on here but all sides should be discussed including the "underside" - cue FTB.

Bill Lumberg 08-01-2011 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1032497)
P2P pilots do not have any of that info and frankly it is all speculation. Maybe the company wants that, but the union has not taken a position as they have no polled us.

This is now the second time I have heard this 15% figure, and from 2 different LECs. If this truly is the case, I will campaign very hard for a DPA win.

forgot to bid 08-01-2011 10:14 PM

Just talked to a SWA Captain.

July. 86 hours of flying. No "silly business". No vacation. Just straight flight pay - $25,000. 1 month.

No 401K included, nothing but straight flight pay.

Continue on.

TheManager 08-01-2011 11:32 PM

True DPA has over half the amount they need?

Like a snow ball rolling down hill.

1. TWA judgement

2. AT/Alpa breakdown

3. failed opener

4. Continued Dalpa intransigence on resolutions

Any combination of one or more of the above results in an avalanche of cards.

Pineapple Guy 08-02-2011 01:41 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1032454)
Ok, Call me a bit confused. You have a SLI proposal written by SW management that has not yet been approved by the AT MEC or the pilots who have to try and defend themselves with scope section written by the current DPA attorney and somehow ALPA has failed the AT guys?

+1

Looks like it was DPA's attorney that threw them under the bus, not ALPA. I think they owe $100 (but for an error this big it should be $100,000,000) to the DPCF.:mad:

scambo1 08-02-2011 02:57 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1032454)
Ok, Call me a bit confused. You have a SLI proposal written by SW management that has not yet been approved by the AT MEC or the pilots who have to try and defend themselves with scope section written by the current DPA attorney and somehow ALPA has failed the AT guys?


Spin spin spin

Pineapple Guy 08-02-2011 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1032577)
Spin spin spin

Do you honestly believe that? Come on; you're smarter than that.

Rather B Fishin 08-02-2011 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1032577)
Spin spin spin

= I don't like your facts.

Justdoinmyjob 08-02-2011 04:12 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1032577)
Spin spin spin

It's no better or worse than what amounts to your spin on the subject. Quite frankly, I'm not only over ALPA, but DPA as well. The vitriol I've read and heard from both sides, not to mention the grief I get from pro-DPAers for still being a fence sitter is off putting. I know, while it isn't official DPA but well meaning members doing it, it is still irritating.

I wonder if the IBT would be interested in a drive here. :rolleyes:

johnso29 08-02-2011 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 1032504)
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