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Old 08-04-2011, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy View Post
I doubt Volaris is doing half of SWA's block hours. As for FedEx, what size feeder aircraft can they operate? We can give the company unlimited piper cub (65 hp or less) and they can have at their outsource fantasy and get a million of them if they want.
Gloopy, 60k mtogw or less, currently Caravans & ATR 42/72
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FedElta View Post
Hey Past,

This effectively limits scope a/c to Caravan, and F27 turboprops.....except for peak relief which is contractual and generates penalty dollars paid by the company.....is this still correct ?

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FedElta,

I believe all the F27's are gone. ATR42's and possibly 72's have replaced them. The scope is probably similar to what it was when you were here other than the MTGW was increased from 50K to 60K.

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Old 08-04-2011, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
I remember seeing the Kalitta whales doing the santa claus extra lift over the holidays... I was always interested to know what sort of contractual obligations there were to the FDX pilots with those wet leases.
FDX can lease some number of a/c for some specific amount of time each yr. 3 months total comes to mind. After that they pay a penalty to us.
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy View Post
Me too, DAL88. Me too.

And I also obviously have more confidence in our union leadership than you, as I think they nearly universally agree as well. I have ZERO concerns that we will see a scope sale on any upcoming contract or LOA. ZERO.
On scope, I agree with you. I could be surprised... but I really don't think we will see a scope sale. Now pay increases... that's a whole different animal. I have seen ZERO fight in our union leadership when it comes to advocating restorative pay increases. ZERO.
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29 View Post
I think Mountain Air Cargo flies ATR's in FedEx paint.
FedEx owns all the airframes.
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential View Post
Riddle me this??? Did you use reduced thrust?

It is for this exact reason that I have somewhat changed my philosophy on the use of assumed temperature and derated thrust on the 737-800. I think the AWABS people have been overdoing it a bit lately. There's no reason we have to be using the whole runway on every takeoff. This whole balanced field thing is OK but there are some airports I'd prefer to get up and out of there or have a little more cushion if we ever do have to abort at high speed.
I used to automatically use the top line. No longer. Now I give a closer look to the RATOW and climb limits.

Did a takeoff out of ATL the other day with a double de-rate and geez...
Southwest taxis with more thrust than we had.
Used up the whole 27R and we weren't even that heavy.
Keep in mind there is one other factor in reduced thrust use. The chance of a actual engine failure goes up almost exponentially with the thrust used. Most engine failures occur under full power takeoffs. I still like a little gravy but you have to weigh the increased chance of a engine failure at higher thrust with the decreased takeoff margins at reduced thrust.
As far as I know not a single 121 accident has been attributed to reduced thrust use. Lots of accidents from engine failures however.
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver View Post
On scope, I agree with you. I could be surprised... but I really don't think we will see a scope sale. Now pay increases... that's a whole different animal. I have seen ZERO fight in our union leadership when it comes to advocating restorative pay increases. ZERO.
Patience, my friend, patience. There's no point in thumping our chests before the game starts. Surveys haven't even gone out. The Delta pilots will determine what they consider desirable wages. It may or may not match your (or my) view of what is desirable, but I have complete confidence the MEC will be lined up with the majority view, and will set their opener appropriately.
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
Pathetic example of denial. Jury finds you guilty in no time flat. What do you do if you're an ALPA apologist?: Blame the jury.

Make sure you use that strategy during the appeal. That'll work great.
I don't mean to be disrespectful of anyone (including the juries in the two trials I referenced).

Can you put aside your own feelings about ALPA for a moment and at least agree to this concept:

One cannot simply say "the jury found you innocent/guilty so that means you definitely didn't/did do it".

The world is just a little more complicated than that.
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Old 08-04-2011, 02:28 PM
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I think we can see the consensus of the Atl pilot group by just visiting the lounge bathroom. I've seen a couple stalls now where Southwest +15% is written on the toilet condom dispensers!
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Old 08-04-2011, 02:28 PM
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If I deadhead on a 90 do I get 90 pay or 88pay. If my 90 leg gets cnx do I get 90 pay or 88 pay? Thanks just seeing if anyone had the awnser.
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