Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-18-2011, 06:13 PM
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You "don't want to rehash, but..." you "...will anyway"?
Are you being coerced?
The bottom 1/3 of both pre-merger lists are... the bottom 1/3 of the new list. Everything you wrote is just as correct for the bottom 1/3 of either pre-merger group. Sucks enough without trying to paint it as sucking more for some than some others.
Are you being coerced?
The bottom 1/3 of both pre-merger lists are... the bottom 1/3 of the new list. Everything you wrote is just as correct for the bottom 1/3 of either pre-merger group. Sucks enough without trying to paint it as sucking more for some than some others.
09-18-2011, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
You "don't want to rehash, but..." you "...will anyway"?
Are you being coerced?
The bottom 1/3 of both pre-merger lists are... the bottom 1/3 of the new list. Everything you wrote is just as correct for the bottom 1/3 of either pre-merger group. Sucks enough without trying to paint it as sucking more for some than some others.
Are you being coerced?
The bottom 1/3 of both pre-merger lists are... the bottom 1/3 of the new list. Everything you wrote is just as correct for the bottom 1/3 of either pre-merger group. Sucks enough without trying to paint it as sucking more for some than some others.
Just calling it like I see it. Pass the Sweedish Meatballs.
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09-18-2011, 06:23 PM
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Is this new or old? Actually it has happened yet, it's a September 19th, 2011 article from 12pm... but it is in Australia so it has happened. But sometimes articles are rehashes of things we already knew...
Virgin Australia and Delta launch codeshare deal | Herald Sun
Virgin Australia and Delta launch codeshare deal | Herald Sun
09-18-2011, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
That's what I was thinking.......
09-18-2011, 06:24 PM
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09-18-2011, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Were you awarded ATL M88 B or something?
09-18-2011, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Really?
Merged Delta was the only legacy airline not to furlough during the last downturn. In fact, Delta hired 305 since the merger. Two early out programs took a fair number of guys off the top, but even with the retirement of two uneconomic fleets there were no furloughs.
That reality conflicts with the perception posted above. Merger setting them back?
Ask the bottom 1450 at UAL, the bottom 10% of Alaska, the bottom 1700 at AMR, the 147 at CAL. Heck, even a bunch of the regionals furloughed. That's being set back.
Merged Delta was the only legacy airline not to furlough during the last downturn. In fact, Delta hired 305 since the merger. Two early out programs took a fair number of guys off the top, but even with the retirement of two uneconomic fleets there were no furloughs.
That reality conflicts with the perception posted above. Merger setting them back?
Ask the bottom 1450 at UAL, the bottom 10% of Alaska, the bottom 1700 at AMR, the 147 at CAL. Heck, even a bunch of the regionals furloughed. That's being set back.Slow,
All true, but little consolation for a lot of our junior guys. We are stagnating. Guys off the top don't really help guys on the bottom too much if we don't hire and grow.
For example, and I do realize that this is exaggerated, but it makes the point. If the top 25% leave the 2nd quartile is now mostly the top (huge benefit). The third quartile moves up to mostly the 2nd (large benefit) but the bottom 25% are pretty much still the bottom, albeit now reaching up to 33% on the list (marginal to zero benefit).
Granted UAL and AMR are worse but every Pilot hired after about 1999 would be making more if they instead went to Southwest, FDX, Jet Blue, Virgin (mostly), Atlas, and who knows who else.
I am hoping our next contract will change that and who knows what the future holds, but as of now every Pilot hired after around 1999 at the worlds biggest airline would have been better off going to a lot of other airlines. I would think this would be a concern for all DAL Pilots - realizing that guys would have been better off going to LCC's.
This is why the junior guys fixate on Scope.
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09-18-2011, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
No. I hear that was the place to be though. Great trips. Great crews. Lots of green slips. That's what the word is on the street. I'm trying to keep it quite, but.....
Bears?
btw, watching the ATL-PHL game... the awkward bowl... and I'm going to go find out how much it cost to put that turf down on my yard. It's the only thing about the dome that looks good.
09-18-2011, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Bears?
btw, watching the ATL-PHL game... the awkward bowl... and I'm going to go find out how much it cost to put that turf down on my yard. It's the only thing about the dome that looks good.
No. It was really the beginning of another SLI debate that did it. I'm guessing it's because we are talking about reductions (again) instead of expansion or upwards movement. For the record, I hope the next AE oracle brings some good news for everyone.
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