Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-16-2011, 10:19 AM
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Suspended JFK Transatlantic routes return later than initially planned.
Scheduled to resume June instead of Mid-March as planned.
Atlanta – Moscow Sheremetyevo Suspended Sept 2011- June 2012
New York JFK – Berlin Tegel Suspended Sept 2011- June 2012
New York JFK – Copenhagen Suspended Sept 2011- June 2012
New York JFK – Manchester Suspended Sept 2011- June 2012
New York JFK – Stockholm Suspended Sept 2011- June 2012
Cheers
George
Scheduled to resume June instead of Mid-March as planned.
Atlanta – Moscow Sheremetyevo Suspended Sept 2011- June 2012
New York JFK – Berlin Tegel Suspended Sept 2011- June 2012
New York JFK – Copenhagen Suspended Sept 2011- June 2012
New York JFK – Manchester Suspended Sept 2011- June 2012
New York JFK – Stockholm Suspended Sept 2011- June 2012
Cheers
George
09-16-2011, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
We should be careful throwing stones.... An NW A320 landed at Ellsworth afb instead of Rapid City a short few years ago.
09-16-2011, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Years ago (1987) a Delta mainline crew put a DC 9 into Frankfurt, KY, while looking for CVG! It was at night, in the rain, shooting an NDB approach to CVG, they popped out of the clouds, saw a lit up runway and landed...then it got intersting trying to find the gates! Luckily most of today's airplanes having glass cockpits and magenta lines to follow.
09-16-2011, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
It was a Saab 340 so I don't think they have a magenta line. Might be wrong because maybe they've added something but my experience is the 340s and E120s of the world are strictly VORs and heading bugs.
From the looks of it there is nothing there to make a magenta line... http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../4/1102486.jpg
From the looks of it there is nothing there to make a magenta line... http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../4/1102486.jpg
Actually came in pretty helpful when you had more than one DME. Not a moving map by any means, but nice to be able to see the intersection cross radials.
There were one or two guys who swore they could navigate direct to a fix and would try it on occasion, somehow ATC was never amused as the accuracy left much to be desired.
09-16-2011, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
The only magenta lines available in the Saabs I used to fly were DME defined radials on a Plan view. When you tuned in a station it would pop up on the plan view and the radial would change when rotating the course selector.
Actually came in pretty helpful when you had more than one DME. Not a moving map by any means, but nice to be able to see the intersection cross radials.
There were one or two guys who swore they could navigate direct to a fix and would try it on occasion, somehow ATC was never amused as the accuracy left much to be desired.
Actually came in pretty helpful when you had more than one DME. Not a moving map by any means, but nice to be able to see the intersection cross radials.
There were one or two guys who swore they could navigate direct to a fix and would try it on occasion, somehow ATC was never amused as the accuracy left much to be desired.
But I was in IAH. There was nothing out there. You just go off headings, pick up one VOR and then look at the approach plate and land. Still wish I had flown the ATR up and down the Hudson VFR.
09-16-2011, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Still wish I had flown the ATR up and down the Hudson VFR.
"La Guardia tower, Jetlink 3333 over the lady, VFR to Hartford...", "Jetlink 3333, cleared into the Bravo via Central Park, overhead the tower cab, bridge, at 2000".
09-16-2011, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Here's the big difference though, a Saab 340 landing at the wrong airport is slower than any of our jets landing at the wrong airport. We simply get the job done faster.
Almost 20 years ago, my newhire sim partner was a FO on a COEX Brasilia that did the exact same thing to the same airport. Said it was a clear night,, center was pushing them to call the field for a visual. The saw the wrong one and landed. He was on probation and never got his job back. Feel bad for the crew.
09-16-2011, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
There were one or two guys who swore they could navigate direct to a fix and would try it on occasion, somehow ATC was never amused as the accuracy left much to be desired.
I didn't explain that method very well. Probably about as well as my "directs" looked on a radar scope.
If you remember doing this, I guess you understood it, sort of.
09-16-2011, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
...Report darkens Bombardier C Series hopes...Maybe without the orders they want and cash to play with BBD will instead drive this aircraft harder and faster towards being on time and the performer they promised. It's hard now but maybe it'll work out for them in the long run because of the simple axiom you can't waste money you never had unless you're the government....
For Bombardier the C-Series is the corporate equivalent of the DO 728/928
LH was again the launch customer, but few other orders trickled in.
For Dornier, just like for Bombardier the bread-and-butter plane orders dried up. At this point Bombardier's order backlog is minuscule and the promised profits from the C-Series are far away...
Boeing doing the 737-7MAX just put another nail in the coffin for the C-Series.
Bombardiers saving grace is the Q400 and the corporate portfolio...
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George
09-16-2011, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Pansy! Thats not a true blind swap! Thats a standard swap with pot. 
Originally Posted by Check Essential
If you're putting in for specific trips then you aren't really doing a blind swap.
A true gambler uses the asterisk.
Be the ball...
"I'm going to give you a little advice. There's a force in the universe that makes things happen. And all you have to do is get in touch with it, stop thinking, let things happen, and be the ball.
"Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left."
A true gambler uses the asterisk.
Be the ball...
"I'm going to give you a little advice. There's a force in the universe that makes things happen. And all you have to do is get in touch with it, stop thinking, let things happen, and be the ball.
"Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left."
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