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Old 09-19-2011 | 09:32 AM
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Another study which concludes "Skyteam" will replace Delta branding. This study is more small jet / domestic US in its focus.

http://www.aviationplanning.com/Imag...p2011Final.pdf
Old 09-19-2011 | 09:47 AM
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On a side note:

Was deadheading on a flight to MSP and the safety video had Richard Anderson welcoming the passengers. I never new Richard had such a Southern Accent. WOW his Southern Accent was huge. I never recalled this accent at NWA. Weird.

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Old 09-19-2011 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Happy Talk like a Pirate Day!!! ARRRRRHHHHH!!!!
I tell kids I'm an airline pirate, arghhhhhhh.

Or I tell them you've got it all wrong kid, I'm not an airline co-pilot, I'm Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
Old 09-19-2011 | 11:26 AM
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Anyone know when the 1st PCS runs for Oct will occur?
Old 09-19-2011 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
Anyone know when the 1st PCS runs for Oct will occur?
Tomorrow. It's always the 20th.
Old 09-19-2011 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by freightguy
Sad but true. We have eroded over the years to pathetic levels. Not too long ago, Delta was the place to be. Now...even most of my buddies at regionals does not care for a DAL job. For many of them DAL is a place to go if SWA, AMR (heavy retirements), FedEx, UPS etc does not work out. Can't blame them.
Yeah, it sure was tough finding qualified applicant last time we hired...


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Old 09-19-2011 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CVG767A
Yeah, it sure was tough finding qualified applicant last time we hired...


GMAFB!
whew. thanks CVG, I was starting to feel down.

But I'll tell you the truth, I know young Delta pilots considering AMR. They're mostly Texans and want back into DFW and they're looking at the retirement numbers and comparing it to ours and evidently it is madly in favor in AMR. Not sure, never ran the numbers. But as HOckey pointed out a while ago and I'm not different when you look at the projected retirements many of us bottom feeders won't move more than a 1,000 numbers in almost the first decade. I think AMR will be faster and people are looking at it seriously because it's not like airlines grow anymore, they're staying the same size and retirements are the only means of movement.

FedEx is also a prized position because what we've learned over the past decade is there is money in cargo and its consistent. How many $25 envelops can you put in a 757 vs $250 passengers for a transcon.
Old 09-19-2011 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CVG767A
Yeah, it sure was tough finding qualified applicant last time we hired...


GMAFB!

Your head is in the sand. This is a far cry from the place you got hired at. People will still apply and take the job, yes, but if everyone is hiring, DAL won't attract the cream like it used to. Sad.
Old 09-19-2011 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CVG767A
Yeah, it sure was tough finding qualified applicant last time we hired...


GMAFB!

CVG,

Yes, there are still plenty of qualified people in the "pipeline" for a job at any major - but this will rapidly change. Age 65 pretty much put everything on hold for 5 years.

As far as qualified applicants - look around, pretty much 50-250 people show up for every job opening advertised at job fairs. This is a pretty low standard to use as a yardstick.

OBTW - I personally know 5 people, 3 are close friends, who permanently left DAL, all hired between Feb 2000 and January 2001, was that normal when you were hired?

In case anyone is curious, 3 are flying corporate, 1 FDX, and 1 Jet BLue. In the spirit of fair disclosure 1 also have another friend who left FDX to come back to DAL.

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Old 09-19-2011 | 12:20 PM
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There is so much that goes into the hiring decision, a lot of it to me seems to be bases, pay and movement. I'd love to have been hired at an airline with bases in DEN, IAD, ORD, LAX, SFO, NYC, but I sure as heck didn't want to be hired at United these days. But when I was growing up it was all DAL, AMR and UAL.

FedEx is alluring because you can work that to live anywhere you want and do great.

What we need to remember is we as pilots, in the eyes of management, suck. We cost too much, the quality of the product we offer isn't that great as a pilot group and evidently not as a team. Otherwise why try to replace us so much?

To be honest, the airline I wanted, was Spacklair.
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