I believe that was only for 36 months from DCC which if memory serves was Oct 08 and you are correct, if you could hold the position in any other base you are not pay protected.

 

I always knew it! FTB...a real man of genius.






Carl

 

I can't remember how long this was in place for, but you are pay protected between what you were MD'd from and the next highest seat you can hold - anywhere in the system. If you can't hold anything higher than what you are MD'd to, then you retain your previous payrate. Unless you're in a junior base it really isn't much of a player, because almost everyone in the company can hold something better in NYC or DTW.

I think formerdal is right too. Not sure exactly when it expires, but I don't think the provision is valid for too much longer. It was put in to help soften the blow of post-merger base realignment and the resultant displacements (which have been minimal IMO)

 

Good question -I suppose the number would be constantly changing in response to changing market/labor conditions. But the point, which by the way, your above post also points out, is that DAL will have to improve compensation as demand for Pilots heats up if DAL wants to be the airline of choice for pilots.

I eagerly await the "Great Pilot shortage" that I have been hearing about for the last 30 years. I do believe that there may be a pilot shortage in the future - but not at the majors. The connection carriers are now too big and have too many fully qualified pilots for DAL ever to be short on applicants. We may very well not be guys and gals first choice but we will always have plenty of applicants. Any future Pilot shortage will fall disproportionately on connection carriers - especially ther FO position.

Scoop

 

I got 767B pay for 3 years while flying the MD88. I know you can only draw the pay for 36 months but I didn't know it was only offered for a limited time.

To chime in on the other discussion... I've seriously thought about leaving DAL to go to SWA, AMR or FDX but neither has called so it made my decision easy. I do however keep my resume up to date... which is something (I'm sure) none of our Captains ever did. It's a different world and DAL isn't the top anymore.

What I find interesting is that most of the guys on active duty don't want to have anything to do with the airlines, even after 10 years of continuous deployments.

We've got a lot to fix and hopefully we make HUGE gains with this next contract. I'd hate to go back to my engineering job.

 

Not to rehash this separate topic but I say this in jest, they'll find an alternative means to deal with the pilot shortage problem - Embraer reveals vision for single-pilot airliners

[WARNING- do not restart the UAV in NAS conversation here, its over on the mil section]

 

Genius will be when I quit your airline and start Spacklair Connection. That way I'll make a fortune. And yes, we're going to bring back the Convair 440... and jeeps.







Oh did someone say, nobody wants to fly props much less piston props?? Remember, this is spacklair, our motto: "Fly Spacklair Props or **** you."

 

I would agree with SWA or FDX, but not AMR. In my view, you have to look at only one thing: Does your company actually want to run and operate an airline, or don't they? It's really that simple. SWA and FDX have a long history of management teams that actually want to run and grow their operation. DAL now has a long history of wanting to shrink its operation through outsourcing and becoming a ticket brokerage holding company. In the case of SWA or FDX, you would only have to hope that this long history continues. In the case of DAL, you will have to hope that we change to that culture some day. My opinion is that the hope DAL will change is far too big a gamble.

This captain does. This captain has 10 years left and I've had two interviews this year. A number of the 744 captains that are leaving via this latest buyout are leaving well before age 60 for other jobs.

Yes we do, but our "union" is far too comfortable with management. Getting HUGE gains in this contract will require an EXTREME battle by DAL pilots against our own union first, then management. I'm not sure a majority of us are up for that kind of fight.

Carl

 

Hey quick question if anyone knows, anti-ice or de-ice on the Convairs, what did they use? I don't see boots and wiki doesn't have a whole lot of info. I'm assuming heated leading edges, but even on the pistons?

 

Intriguing. Never thought of that as a reason to leave.