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buzzpat 09-22-2011 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by chuck416 (Post 1058694)
Glad to hear that Buzz. For all it's growing pain(s), it's turning out to be one great merger. Keep waving the flag on the left coast.
Regards,
Chuck

Will do Chuck. Yep, its turning out well. If we can just get the FAs blended, it'll all be good.

forgot to bid 09-22-2011 07:10 PM

For all of you considering a side business... how about a decent fast food restaurant at the ATL airport? Burritos? How hard is it to have burrito's in terminal A and B or something like that?

buzzpat 09-22-2011 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1058738)
For all of you considering a side business... how about a decent fast food restaurant at the ATL airport? Burritos? How hard is it to have burrito's in terminal A and B or something like that?

A Chipotle would be nice.;)

Carl Spackler 09-22-2011 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1058730)
Meh. You got lucky. :D They were still reeling from the emmy afterparties.

Hilarious!

Bunch of tofu eaters...:D

Carl

scambo1 09-22-2011 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1058738)
For all of you considering a side business... how about a decent fast food restaurant at the ATL airport? Burritos? How hard is it to have burrito's in terminal A and B or something like that?


Pre 9-11, in MCO at the airport, there was an asian "roach coach" lunch truck or whatever they are called these days. Very good chow with next to no overhead. I have no idea if that sort of thing would be allowed these days.

Bill Lumberg 09-22-2011 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by groundstop (Post 1058588)
We won't see 15% for the opener. More like 5%-10% with 4-5% per year.


This was close to what I was hearing up NORTH. "Wall Street may not like it if we get a higher percentage initially", and I also heard the question "what would the other employee groups think?" The DPA sounds great after hearing garbage like that. It's all about managing expectations, and this opener better be HUGE.

iaflyer 09-22-2011 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1058758)
This was close to what I was hearing up NORTH. Wall Street may not like it if we get a higher percentage, and I also heard the question "what would the other employee groups think?" The DPA isn't really a bad idea after you hear those types of things.

That's why we need to get the raises via work rules. Wall Street types and newspapers look for the quick quote, "15% over 3 years". But get the money in the work rules or retirement - they won't know what 4:30 vacation pay means or 5:15 min day. Or additional 5% in 401(k) contribution.

80ktsClamp 09-22-2011 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1058738)
For all of you considering a side business... how about a decent fast food restaurant at the ATL airport? Burritos? How hard is it to have burrito's in terminal A and B or something like that?

Need to be on the Maynard Jackson "approved" list to start a biz there...


Don't tell my wife, but in regards to Pam, I did that. :)

forgot to bid 09-22-2011 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1058760)
That's why we need to get the raises via work rules. Wall Street types and newspapers look for the quick quote, "15% over 3 years". But get the money in the work rules or retirement - they won't know what 4:30 vacation pay means or 5:15 min day. Or additional 5% in 401(k) contribution.

I think the company will talk about as a package and not hourly rates when they explain to the media and investors and creditors that we're asking for something that would increase pilot costs 75%.

But if management wants to play cool and just talk hourly rates then I want them to explain how we we're willing to take a 10% cut right off the top in our hourly wages. But get paid by the duty hour with min pay probably around the 10 hour mark.

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On a different subject. There seems to be a lot of fingers pointed around on who would give up what during the contract negotiations. In particular, old guys don't want to rock the boat this close to retirement and young civilian guys have never made this much money and they'll never rock the boat.

I think when it comes to the young civilian guys you'd be surprised how many of them, despite making more than their previous job, have no problem walking off the job.

We don't talk about striking over C2012 much but don't be surprised if the RJ types have no problem demanding SWA scope and pay + or FEDEX scope and pay + or we vote every TA down and we strike. They're not as wimpy as some seem to think. After all, while very unpopular, it was Comair that went on strike.

You have to wait and see, just like we have to wait and see what the company offers and what ALPA offers. Frankly, none of us know right now what this pilot group will do or even what the economy we are negotiating in will be.

forgot to bid 09-22-2011 08:01 PM

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