Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Delta
Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? >

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?


Notices

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Old 09-29-2011 | 07:55 AM
  #76791  
scambo1's Avatar
The Brown Dot +1
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,775
Likes: 0
From: 777B
Default

Originally Posted by Boomer
When instructing at Delta Connection Academy (a wholly-owned subsidiary of Delta Air Lines) in 2003 I was given one day off when my kid was born. Without pay, of course.

As Boomer just stated, FMLA works as advertised.
Old 09-29-2011 | 08:21 AM
  #76792  
Moderator
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 13,088
Likes: 0
From: B757/767
Default

Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Johnso,

For our first one I took the NWA SLIP leave as we weren't making squat first year anyways. The second kiddo was under DAL rules, and I had no problems whatsoever with the CPSC and Crew Planning. The key is to get it setup way in advance, as it sounds like you are. They allowed me to move my vacation to begin a few days prior to the due date, and said I could call and shift it sooner if my wife went into labor early. Very flexible I thought. This was all during summer and I can't come anywhere close to holding summer vacation, as you know .

Vacation, plus 2 weeks of FMLA, plus creative bidding and a few PCS moves and I ended up with almost 6 weeks off for the 2nd kid, with only 2 weeks unpaid.

Good luck, and congrats. It sounds like you're on the right track.
Thanks for the tips. I started working with them about 4 months out. It's been going good. Last step from here is to wait and see how the Dec schedule turns out. Then some fine tuning can be done. It'll be a little tougher, as I think I'll be on reserve in Dec.
Old 09-29-2011 | 08:23 AM
  #76793  
Bucking Bar's Avatar
Can't abide NAI
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 12,078
Likes: 15
From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Default

Originally Posted by acl65pilot
That is simply the cost of doing business for an airline of our size. Also realize that Block hrs that Sailing is reporting are block hours that have not been adjusted for augmented crews. The block per pilot is a lot better than that when you take that in to account.

If you get the block hr per month here then divide it by active line pilot, or total pilots including those in management you get a better comparison.
Actually ... what is throwing the numbers off is our high degree of outsourcing. Much of our "junior" flying which is highly productive has been outsourced. What remains is more "senior" and less productive. Connection type schedules have a lot of scheduled 6 leg 7:55 days. With all the ground stops and flow control, those can become 13 hour block days.
Old 09-29-2011 | 08:26 AM
  #76794  
Boomer's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,629
Likes: 15
From: blueJet
Default

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Actually ... what is throwing the numbers off is our high degree of outsourcing. Much of our "junior" flying which is highly productive has been outsourced.
The main reason an "apples to apples" comparison of the domestic operations will be so tough for ALPA to calculate.
Old 09-29-2011 | 08:31 AM
  #76795  
Bucking Bar's Avatar
Can't abide NAI
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 12,078
Likes: 15
From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Default

Originally Posted by DeadHead
Just being through the process myself, I didn't have any issues getting the time off, as long as HR had at least 30 days notice. Agree with you, not having any type of pay when on FMLA sucks. In hindsight I should have I used some of my vacation earlier in the year which I could have shifted into my FMLA. Would have taken some of the sting out of losing a few weeks of pay.
Understand the 30 days notice is a Delta requirement. The 30 day notice requirement under the FMLA only applies to elective surgery which can be scheduled in advance. Unless your child is going to be delivered via C Section, known more than 30 days in advance, then there is NO thirty day requirement.

Unfortunately, ALPA's insurance "expert" is no help. She is unaware that President Obama signed the Flight Crew Technical Corrections Act, and how FMLA is properly applied.

The real core problem is that Delta's Human Resource Policy Manual has not been updated since the change in the Statute. HR is following wrong guidance. ALPA's "expert" is following Delta's guidance.

It is best to play Delta's game and comply if at all possible. Just understand, Delta is knowingly violating the law. The Department of Labor is your best friend if you have a problem.

Last edited by Bucking Bar; 09-29-2011 at 08:46 AM.
Old 09-29-2011 | 09:24 AM
  #76796  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 5,583
Likes: 326
Default

Originally Posted by Boomer
Domestic Operation -

I know a 2003 hire at Southwest is making plenty more than I am on the DCI C-Scale.
Nobody feels sorry for you. 9 years is a long time to spend at Comair. You should have quit that job along time ago. I went from zero flight time to Delta in less than 8 years. In the last nine years, every airline has hired except for American. You especially won't get any sympathy from a Delta pilot. You know the pilots that you refused to let work at your company unless we resigned our recall rights. You made your bed.
Old 09-29-2011 | 09:27 AM
  #76797  
georgetg's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,724
Likes: 0
From: Boeing Hearing and Ergonomics Lab Rat, Night Shift
Default

The Bombardier C-Series just got a big no-confidence vote.
C-Series launch customer Lufthansa just ordered 5 Embraer EMB-195s

(And the C-Series already was the stillborn Dornier 728 replacement)

Cheers
George
Old 09-29-2011 | 09:32 AM
  #76798  
Check Essential's Avatar
Works Every Weekend
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,506
Likes: 0
From: 737 ATL
Default

Idiot with a laser gets busted.



"We have the laser and we have him in custody".
Old 09-29-2011 | 09:36 AM
  #76799  
Boomer's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,629
Likes: 15
From: blueJet
Default

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Nobody feels sorry for you. 9 years is a long time to spend at Comair. You should have quit that job along time ago. I went from zero flight time to Delta in less than 8 years. In the last nine years, every airline has hired except for American. You especially won't get any sympathy from a Delta pilot. You know the pilots that you refused to let work at your company unless we resigned our recall rights. You made your bed.
Are you trying to manage my expectations?
Old 09-29-2011 | 09:58 AM
  #76800  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 5,583
Likes: 326
Default

Originally Posted by Boomer
Are you trying to manage my expectations?
No. I'm trying to help you. You need to find another job. You will never see a raise at Comair. It will cease to exist in a few years. No one on this board will change that. Most pilots on this Delta thread do not feel bad for you or care.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
On Autopilot
Regional
22617
11-05-2021 07:03 AM
AeroCrewSolut
Delta
153
08-14-2018 12:18 PM
Bill Lumberg
Major
71
06-13-2012 08:36 AM
Quagmire
Major
253
04-16-2011 06:19 AM
JiffyLube
Major
12
03-07-2008 04:27 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices