Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-29-2011 | 04:21 AM
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Check it out, we have T.O'M with us right here! We have multiple fleets, with more up and down bidding do to fleet movement, base realignment, retirements, etc. That means more people in training, and nothing like SWA and their current (not combined with airtran yet) fleet and mission. You can't compare us. But we do have more profits, and $950 million in bag fees last year alone. With continued spin from guys like you, the DPA will win easily someday, hopefully soon.
09-29-2011 | 04:32 AM
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Check it out, we have T.O'M with us right here! We have multiple fleets, with more up and down bidding do to fleet movement, base realignment, retirements, etc. That means more people in training, and nothing like SWA and their current (not combined with airtran yet) fleet and mission. You can't compare us. But we do have more profits, and $950 million in bag fees last year alone. With continued spin from guys like you, the DPA will win easily someday, hopefully soon.
That is simply the cost of doing business for an airline of our size. Also realize that Block hrs that Sailing is reporting are block hours that have not been adjusted for augmented crews. The block per pilot is a lot better than that when you take that in to account.
If you get the block hr per month here then divide it by active line pilot, or total pilots including those in management you get a better comparison.
09-29-2011 | 04:34 AM
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That is simply the cost of doing business for an airline of our size. Also realize that Block hrs that Sailing is reporting are block hours that have not been adjusted for augmented crews. The block per pilot is a lot better than that when you take that in to account.
If you get the block hr per month here then divide it by active line pilot, or total pilots including those in management you get a better comparison.
If you get the block hr per month here then divide it by active line pilot, or total pilots including those in management you get a better comparison.
09-29-2011 | 04:41 AM
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It is his opinion, and he makes some valid points. We do not have to agree or disagree with him. He is simply stating what he sees as the reality we will be in Section 6 in. He is senior and if he was truly selfish, he would want FAR MAX and max pay. He would not care about limiting block or duty, and as a result would not care about the bottom 3000 pilots.
I have flown with him, and he is rational in his position. I disagree with him on some point, and agree with him on others.
09-29-2011 | 04:54 AM
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That is simply the cost of doing business for an airline of our size. Also realize that Block hrs that Sailing is reporting are block hours that have not been adjusted for augmented crews. The block per pilot is a lot better than that when you take that in to account.
If you get the block hr per month here then divide it by active line pilot, or total pilots including those in management you get a better comparison.
If you get the block hr per month here then divide it by active line pilot, or total pilots including those in management you get a better comparison.
09-29-2011 | 05:22 AM
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09-29-2011 | 05:23 AM
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Just curious, but does the pilot group get to see the opener once it is presented to the company?
Or are the negotiations held privately between the negotiating committee and management, and then presented to the pilot group for a vote once both sides feel as though they have come to an agreement that could pass a vote?
Forgive the stupid questions, but I have not been through this process before?
Or are the negotiations held privately between the negotiating committee and management, and then presented to the pilot group for a vote once both sides feel as though they have come to an agreement that could pass a vote?
Forgive the stupid questions, but I have not been through this process before?
09-29-2011 | 05:35 AM
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Just curious, but does the pilot group get to see the opener once it is presented to the company?
Or are the negotiations held privately between the negotiating committee and management, and then presented to the pilot group for a vote once both sides feel as though they have come to an agreement that could pass a vote?
Forgive the stupid questions, but I have not been through this process before?
Or are the negotiations held privately between the negotiating committee and management, and then presented to the pilot group for a vote once both sides feel as though they have come to an agreement that could pass a vote?
Forgive the stupid questions, but I have not been through this process before?
The negotiations are private (unless one side or the other decides to make public statements).
http://www.nmb.gov/publicinfo/collbarg2.pdf
09-29-2011 | 05:45 AM
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Just curious, but does the pilot group get to see the opener once it is presented to the company?
Or are the negotiations held privately between the negotiating committee and management, and then presented to the pilot group for a vote once both sides feel as though they have come to an agreement that could pass a vote?
Forgive the stupid questions, but I have not been through this process before?
Or are the negotiations held privately between the negotiating committee and management, and then presented to the pilot group for a vote once both sides feel as though they have come to an agreement that could pass a vote?
Forgive the stupid questions, but I have not been through this process before?
I don't remember ever seeing any specific opener or any back and forth offers between the union and management. When there is a Tentative Agree ment (TA) the negotiating committees, it will be presented to the MEC for their vote and if they vote in favor there will be road shows to all the bases by the union to explain it. Then there will be a membership ratification vote. Probably closing about 2 months after a TA is reached.
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09-29-2011 | 05:54 AM
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I don't remember ever seeing any specific opener or any back and forth offers between the union and management. When there is a Tentative Agree ment (TA) the negotiating committees, it will be presented to the MEC for their vote and if they vote in favor there will be road shows to all the bases by the union to explain/sell it. Then there will be a membership ratification vote. Probably closing about 2 months after a TA is reached.
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