Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-29-2011, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Here are some numbers I really don't like:
As a domestic narrowbody Captain in 2010, my W2 was $100,000 LESS than the W2 of the average SWA domestic narrowbody Captain!
As a domestic narrowbody Captain in 2010, my W2 was $100,000 LESS than the W2 of the average SWA domestic narrowbody Captain!
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09-29-2011, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Whidbey
Admitting it is the fist step towards improving it.
09-29-2011, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Part of me really itches to lower the bar and go for the quick upgrade.
I've even been told by Delta Captains that I should go to Republic or Freedom to clear the Comair stain off my resume. Talk about irony...
GoJetsss has a pilot job fair in CVG in two weeks. Do you guys think a move to GoJetssss Street Captain will improve my chances of getting hired at Delta?
I've even been told by Delta Captains that I should go to Republic or Freedom to clear the Comair stain off my resume. Talk about irony...
GoJetsss has a pilot job fair in CVG in two weeks. Do you guys think a move to GoJetssss Street Captain will improve my chances of getting hired at Delta?
09-29-2011, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Sitting in ATL at the SLC outbound gate admiring the view.
09-29-2011, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
What I am willing to give up is my wife working 70 hrs weeks to give us an acceptable QOL.
09-29-2011, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
To get a raise and 121 jet PIC time while leaving Comair all in the same move, how could you not?
With all the trash talk about GoJetsss lowering the bar, I don't want to go there only to slit my wrists (career-wise) a second time.
09-29-2011, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
That stuff sounds like it happened a long time ago.
Hockey, why the animosity?
Hockey, why the animosity?
09-29-2011, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The question was asked. The data is available. No spin. You just don't like the numbers. SW runs a very efficient operation that keeps their total pilot costs down even though their hourly rate is high. The total block hour costs are skewed in favor of SW because of the number of 3 and 4 man operations we have at Delta. Comparing like to like our block hour costs are around 650 an hour compared to 698 at SW.
Keep in mind that we have a higher DC plan then SW and we have huge ongoing funding obligations to the NW pilot retirement plan. They all count in total block hour costs.
Delta's pilot block hour costs will however go up quite a bit on 1 Jan. There is a 4 percent raise and a 1 percent increase in the DC. In addition
NW pilots will transition to the full DC plan on that date. That ranges from a small to 14 percent increase depending on where the pilot sat on the NW matrix. SW has a raise scheduled for next Aug if I recall. The correct numbers to use in a comparison will be the costs after both the SW and Delta raises and
retirement changes are applied.
Keep in mind that we have a higher DC plan then SW and we have huge ongoing funding obligations to the NW pilot retirement plan. They all count in total block hour costs.
Delta's pilot block hour costs will however go up quite a bit on 1 Jan. There is a 4 percent raise and a 1 percent increase in the DC. In addition
NW pilots will transition to the full DC plan on that date. That ranges from a small to 14 percent increase depending on where the pilot sat on the NW matrix. SW has a raise scheduled for next Aug if I recall. The correct numbers to use in a comparison will be the costs after both the SW and Delta raises and
retirement changes are applied.
Last edited by Bill Lumberg; 09-29-2011 at 03:10 PM.
09-29-2011, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
I went to CAA in 2000 and Comair in 2003 to be a Delta pilot. I had no idea of the animosity between our pilot groups.
With all the trash talk about GoJetsss lowering the bar, I don't want to go there only to slit my wrists (career-wise) a second time.
With all the trash talk about GoJetsss lowering the bar, I don't want to go there only to slit my wrists (career-wise) a second time.
09-29-2011, 04:07 PM
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Hey Boomer;
I like you. I dont give a rats a$$ where you work or worked. I like you. I think you are funny smart and have a great attitude.
End of the day, thats who DAL hires.
Then some people like me slip thru the cracks, its the law of averages.
I like you. I dont give a rats a$$ where you work or worked. I like you. I think you are funny smart and have a great attitude.
End of the day, thats who DAL hires.
Then some people like me slip thru the cracks, its the law of averages.
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