Do you see anywhere in the post where I say that?

 

If you were hired in 2003 then you are not stained by the whole unpleasantness of Lawson and the RJDC. You are an innocent bystander.

I don't have any career advice re: GoJet but the people who do the hiring at Delta are pretty well informed. They would certainly be aware that you had nothing to do with the strike or the other controversial events we're discussing.

 

+1 Scambo.

 

[QUOTE=gloopy;1062212]True. He also hinted that larger RJ's were on the table as well, like the 90 seaters flying around with 76 seats in a 2 class management preferred config that eventually hapened anyway.

Comair management had a long standing policy that they didn't always enforce that required seniority resignation. Ironically it is the exact same policy DL itself had and still does.

ASA management had no such policy.

DL went to the ASA and Comair MEC's, both of which were in on the PID and passively agressively supporting the RJDC by the way, and told them to ask their managements to hire without seniority resignation or they would be punished. The ASA MEC said "yeah sure whatever dood its already existing policy so whatever" and the CMR MEC puffed up their chests and acted like they had leverage they never did. Plenty of arrogance to go around.

Then when the dust settled, the ASA pilot group was acting like they stepped up and helped brothers in need with a valliant effort when they in fact actively did nothing (as a group) and the DL MEC had the scapegoat they needed to distract their membership from the catestrophic scope failures C2K allowed as DCI went on a multi thousand pilot hiring fest in addition to putting the DL mainline seniority resignation policy itself that was actually harming the furloughed pilots behind the political smokescreen they needed so it didn't have to be directly addressed.

Where do you make this stuff up from??

Or they will be punished? Total BS. The Delta MEC approached the Comair MEC and simply asked they they drop their policy on seniority resignation in return for preferential hiring at Delta. Nothing more or less.
Here is the letter straight from Lawson mouth. If anything you state was remotely true Lawson would have been screaming it in this letter and every other communication. He did not because your statement is fiction.

TO: Comair Pilots
FROM: J.C. Lawson, Comair MEC Chairman
DATE: December 16, 2002

Your MEC met in CVG with the Delta MEC Chairman, Captain Will Buergey, at his request, to discuss preferential hiring of furloughed Delta pilots at Comair. Through this letter, I hope to dispel rumors and provide a more thorough understanding of the purpose and outcome of that meeting.

The Delta MEC, while in session at the bi-annual October Board of Directors meeting in Hollywood, Florida, formally directed the Delta MEC Chairman via resolution to meet with the Comair MEC Chairman to seek preferential hiring for furloughed Delta pilots at Comair while allowing them to retain their Delta seniority.

The general philosophy held by the Comair MEC is:

We are sensitive to the regrettable plight of all furloughed pilots in our industry.

We encourage our management to hire pilots who seek a future at Comair.
We have formally approached Comair management and our management has agreed to preferential hiring of furloughed ALPA pilots.

We agree with our company's policy that requires prospective Comair pilots to resign their seniority at their previous carrier.

We believe our Company's industry-standard policy requiring seniority resignation is sound and wise. It promotes the general health and welfare of all Comair employees and serves to protect the future of our company.

At our meeting in CVG, Captain Buergey offered preferential hiring to Comair pilots if the Comair MEC would recommend to Comair management that they hire furloughed Delta pilots and allow them to retain their Delta seniority.

Your MEC responded that hiring any pilots at Comair who do not resign their seniority at their previous carrier gives rise to numerous substantive concerns. The Delta MEC's offer of (future) preferential hiring at Delta is not sufficiently substantive to overcome those concerns and solicit Comair pilots' support. We suggested three alternative concepts, any one or all of which might lead to a mutually beneficial solution:

Relax the Delta PWA, Section 1, seat restrictions imposed upon Comair and ASA that limit our growth in 70-seat and larger airframes.

Negotiate Delta Brand Scope language with Delta management that defines all Delta flying within the Delta revenue stream to be performed solely by Delta, Comair, and ASA pilots.

Negotiate a plan for future integration of our Delta, Comair, and ASA pilots seniority lists that fairly recognizes the efforts and contributions of all.

The Comair MEC stands ready to work with the collective MEC's to bring about change that makes sense in a challenging economic environment and works for all pilots who perform flying under the Delta brand. As we stated in the Tuesday, December 3rd meeting, our door is still open.

COMAIR MEC
AIR LINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION, INTERNATIONAL
SUITE 120 3940 OLYMPIC BOULEVARD ERLANGER, KY 41018
859-282-9016 FAX 859-283-5533

 

No, sir. I do not. What is your post saying?

 

Guess I'm going to be part of the runtime test for the new A330 ground school. I promise to go REAL slow.

If anyone is at the ATL school house next month, beer is on the Ferd (isn't that what perdiem is for?)

-----------------------

Thank you once again for your participation in the upcoming A330 Initial Qualification Distance Learning Runtime Test.



As a reminder, please see the details below:



· Where: Delta Training Center (ATL), Room 381

· When: 10/11 – 10/13 (Tue-Thu)

· Duration: 3 full days

· Reporting time: 8.00 a.m. on each day

· Preparation: No preparation necessary. Everything will be provided to you during the 3 day event, including computer access, Initial Qualification software (jump drive), information package and feedback forms. Depending on your own personal learning preferences, you may go ahead and study the fleet material beforehand. You will also be given the opportunity to complete the ESV for the A330 if you so desire. This will be a no-jeopardy event. If you are required to complete this training, you will qualify for credit on completion of the full A330 systems distance learning course.

· Travel: Positive space travel is authorized (must be arranged by you)

· Accommodation: As requested, hotel accommodation for the night of October 10, 11 and 12 will be arranges for you by Crew Scheduling. Look for confirmation and details from Crew Scheduling.

· Pay: regular training per diem and 3 hrs 15 min of pay/no credit per day (a total of 9 hrs 45 min) will be provided for you.

· Scheduling: your schedule for the three days will be arranged up by crew scheduling.

 

Ferd;
It sounds like you have been assimilated.

May I recommend the 1/2 smoked chicken at the BBQ kitchen, it's breathtaking.

 

I did the same thing for the 320... Let's just say I did everything in my power to ensure a nice long run time.


BTW- the new 330 syllabus, you walk in on day 1 and take the SV. ***? The new 320 syllabus is similar but with a day or 2 of "ground." It is not what us Delta South guys are used to with the CD and then a week of ground... and even moreso for the North guys. All the fleets are going to this E-qual stuff that will change over to a similar footprint. Cutting a bit too deep... I think the failures on the SV are going to go way up.

 

two questions for the brethren:

Car guy question: I have been offered a non number matching, 2000 miles since restoration, 1970 corvette roadster 4spd. Nice looking, riding and driving car. Anyone got any idea what this car is worth in today's economy, I'm thinking $11k and I cant be hurt.

Investor question: AGQ - What the eff? Is it a buy or is it going lower?

 

Ahhh, and I thought it was only me....