If this works for AA then it's still the AA of old, always beating the competition.

 

That's some funny sh*t! Thanks for the update FTB.

 

I was going to post something said at the bar just to illustrate the ridiculous nature of unsubstantiated rumors like Orvil is spouting, but since it would have come from a source that was at the LCP meeting (me) it would probably make the rounds as "An LCP said...." so I am not going down that road. Sorry to get your hopes up. I'm really try not to spread rumors unless I have a good source. He cites none, and it doesn't pass the smell test to begin with.

 

Yep. I figured right before the end of the year. Their bookings may be crud and figured it would preserve cash and no effect them too much.

 

AA has almost 30 billion in debt and are paying some of the highest financing rates amongst the majors. And the reason they filed is because of they were unable to get labor to take pay cuts???

 

It is snowing in MEM though. But they're north of Atlanta so they probably know how to handle it.

 

Really???? You would rather have an anti-pilot, hostile, micro-managing "manager" instead????


Do people on here ever use logic and reason instead of ego and emotion? At the end of the day when T.O walks into S.D's office what is the best outcome for the DAL pilot? A hostile, fist pounding attitude where neither side gets anything accomplished or one of mutual respect and professionalism where things can actually get accomplished?

In our merger how many contractual violations did DAL incur? How many grievances do we currently have before a system board?

Do we have a LONG, LONG way to go in terms of restoring this profession? Absolutely. On the other hand, tell me what single pilot group has made the gains we have since 9/11? SWA is the the poster child BY DEFAULT. Have they ever negotiated an industry leading contract or gained contractual improvements OUTSIDE of section 6 negotiations?

 

Semantics



No, it's what you read into things that don't toe YOUR propaganda line.



And it is ridiculous. Heiko will be here for a long time. I am not sure about the other guys, but good grief Carl.


Fact finding? Corruption? Really Carl?

Talk about spring loaded..

 

I think what it comes down to is that there are many that want to give management a bloody nose like they gave us, and they see the mutually beneficial road as an impediment to that. I understand that, I really do, but the thing that they fail to realize is that the cards are stacked against us, and they refuse to acknowledge that "fact". We can go in with an obstinate attitude, and we are gonna get our asses handed to us. THAT is a fact, because the one and only weapon will never be allowed to be used, and anyone that thinks otherwise is naive. That is the last thing I will say on this thread about this.. promise

 

I've never figured out this sentiment. I would much rather have them working full time on our behalf. Rather than flying a full schedule so I can feel emotionally better. As far as the LEC I usually do see them out flying.