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Old 11-28-2011, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
Plus SWAPA's scope. Fixed your post!

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Yep! Thanks Carl.
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OccupyRestSeat View Post
How about this: DALPA negotiates SWA scope and pay plus, and leaves the snarky and irrelevant talking points to management.

seriously. I don't need to be insulted by "my" bargaining agent. If you can't, won't, or have too much at stake personally to address the issues at hand, just have the integrity to say so and step back.

Integrity. What was I thinking.
+10,000. Exactly. Don't accept the pie method (this is your slice, you divide up any way you want to). Go for what we deserve, it's the cost of doing business.
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman49 View Post
What history?

Anderson was appointed CEO of Northwest Airlines in February 2001.
The overall history of labor/mgmt relations at NWA was, let's say --- turbulent.

Rampers, mechanics, gate agents, flight attendants, etc. Everyone was union.
Now none of them will be.

Management has got to be ecstatic.

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Old 11-28-2011, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit View Post
The NC/MEC/LEC/etc. will be working under that same agreement!
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Are you kidding? The NC/MEC/LEC, etc will be working ALPA trip drops and keeping their cushy jobs while you and I fly the line day in and day out. How long do you think it's been since any of the MEC administration flew more than a few days a month?
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog View Post
Snow forecast in ATL. They did tomorrows short calls for ATLM88B at 11ish this morning as usual then called me at 1700 to give me a 0600 SC. Scheduler even said the were adding SC for the WX. Since ATL is such a big part of the operation, a potentially severe IROP (known locally as AM flurries) has the potential to derail the whole operation.
I just got the call also.
They have gone to General Quarters on Virginia Ave.
Skeds is putting the whole airline on short call.

If it snows at Hartsfield --
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Old 11-28-2011, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by OccupyRestSeat View Post
Even if they can't --and I think they can, since they won't be worried about grooming the next chief pilots and otherwise rolling over like ALPA is--at least we won't be sending money outside of our pilot group to support the bloated gluttons in Herndon who are required to support those who would undercut us. At the VERY least, dues will decrease and monies available to our pilot group will skyrocket.

Do folks on here know about the outgoing ATL chief pilot's ALPA background? Totally unsat. I want my union folks to be persona non-Grata in the Mecca hierarchy.
I'm no fan of the national association either, but be real. This is petty stuff right here. Why do you want the leadership to be persona non grata? Does that somehow offend you? What if he get's us a 50% pay raise and you only have to work 5 days/month... AND... all the RJ flying comes on the property.. BUT.. he will be the next head of flight ops? Ridiculous you say? Uh.. no.. it's exactly like the joke about asking a girl if she would sleep with you for a million dollars... (I will regale it if you do not know it). All we are arguing about is the price.
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Old 11-28-2011, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
Simple: Because I don't believe ALPA is the only possible source of success. The fact that you would ask this question seems to presuppose that ALPA is the venue for success. Many of us disagree.

Now here's a question for you: What on God's green Earth makes you think that ALPA will shoot for getting Delta pilots the industry's leading contract given their history?

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I never said that ALPA was the avenue to success Carl. I just want to know what it is that DPA has that ALPA does not that would make them more successful.

As far as question 2, I believe that since the guys negotiating the contract also have to live under that contract it is ludicrous to believe that they would want anything else. No.. it's beyond ludicrous.

I am no pom pom shaker... but I fail to see other than vitriol towards ALPA. What it is that DPA brings?

Mods: Sorry this is here, but I am just answering the question. Feel free to move it over to that other thread.
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Old 11-28-2011, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by orvil View Post
Not really.
Just like unsubstantiated crap from nowhere has no place here either. Thank you.
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Old 11-28-2011, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
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Now here's a question for you: What on God's green Earth makes you think that ALPA will shoot for getting Delta pilots the industry's leading contract given their history?

Carl
How about the fact that in 2000 they did just that?
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