Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Kids, or no kids?
Perx does not have Holiday Inn's link, but they give a good discount (30% less than I was able to find online) for their resorts, w/ Delta ID at check in. Budget seems to be the best on cars.
Pensacola's got a new resort property with a lazy river and kids activities. Good excuse to visit the Navy Aviation Museum in Pensacola. Check the schedules, on some days the Blue Angels practice right on the beach. Take the wife up to Seaside or Aly's Beach for the yuppie $60 dinner and the Back Porch is the same as it has been for 30 years now.
Perx does not have Holiday Inn's link, but they give a good discount (30% less than I was able to find online) for their resorts, w/ Delta ID at check in. Budget seems to be the best on cars.
Pensacola's got a new resort property with a lazy river and kids activities. Good excuse to visit the Navy Aviation Museum in Pensacola. Check the schedules, on some days the Blue Angels practice right on the beach. Take the wife up to Seaside or Aly's Beach for the yuppie $60 dinner and the Back Porch is the same as it has been for 30 years now.
When I went to Punta Cana there were lots of half naked women, mostly European, none were young. Well, except 1 American. Oh, and lots of banana hammocks.
There were a lot of naked children at the pool. Don't ask me. I thought it was weird but I guess some parents are okay with the el natural child.
There were a lot of naked children at the pool. Don't ask me. I thought it was weird but I guess some parents are okay with the el natural child.
Really? Trim runs pretty slow.
Seems like this guy would have realized something was wrong when his neck tie was skewed 30 degrees. ... like Air France being 17+ degrees nose up at FL370 with the engines at idle ... some things, I just don't get.
Had an FO at a previous airline tweak the rudder trim and the knob stuck due to all the crap that was under it. He left it in position as the airplane's trim slowly ran towards the stop. Even with the knob stuck it was no big deal to control the jet, get the knob un stuck and re-trimmed.
Seems like this guy would have realized something was wrong when his neck tie was skewed 30 degrees. ... like Air France being 17+ degrees nose up at FL370 with the engines at idle ... some things, I just don't get.
Had an FO at a previous airline tweak the rudder trim and the knob stuck due to all the crap that was under it. He left it in position as the airplane's trim slowly ran towards the stop. Even with the knob stuck it was no big deal to control the jet, get the knob un stuck and re-trimmed.
When typing in that scope is most important, make sure to list turboprop scope limits too. Read below.
Why we need prop limits in the next PWA. Have someone spread this around........
PWC: Roomier fuselage key for next generation turboprop
Pratt & Whitney Canada this summer will begin assembling portions of its next-generation turboprop engine in anticipation of a launch platform for a clean sheet 90-100-seat turboprop potentially as early as 2012.
"Most sales today are for 70-seat aircraft," says Richard Dussault, P&WC vice-president of marketing. "We definitely see a place for 90- to 100-seat aircraft and that's where we're aiming for with a 5,000-7,000shp engine. We could easily do 8,000shp as well."
Rather than linear extensions of current product lines dominated by ATR and Bombardier aircraft powered by PWC engines, Dussault says there's a "clear push" for aircraft that are more spacious in cabin size than today's turboprops, a trend exhibited in the evolution from small-cabin first generation regional jets to the larger Embraer EJets and Bombardier CSeries families.
"The size of the aircraft relatively speaking might be a bit larger than today's turboprop, with larger overhead bins," he adds.
In terms of speed and altitude, Dussault says 300-350kt (555-647km/hr) is the "most likely goal of that market" with similar cruise altitudes to today's turboprops - in the mid-20,000ft (6,096m) range.
Fastest in today's turboprop fleet is the Bombardier Q400 with a maximum cruise speed of 360kt. The 68-78-seat aircraft is powered by two Pratt PW150A engines, each rated at 5,070shp (3,780kW), and connected to six-bladed Dowty Aerospace propellers.
"The big question is speed," says Dussault. "To preserve the economy of turboprop, you have to have the right speed. Though higher speed gives longer routes and more turns for the aircraft per day, it comes with higher fuel costs. When turboprops became very popular in end of the 1990s, [lower] speed was the tradeoff."
PWC is working with sister company Hamilton Sundstrand to develop an integrated propulsion system offering which will include the propeller, engine, nacelle and associated components. However Dussault says PWC will offer an engine-only option if a launch airframer decides to perform that work in-house.
Dussault expects the clean sheet aircraft to have "sixed-bladed or more" propellers that use "conventional" propeller technologies. "A lot of the technology will come in the way we integrate the engine and propeller control into single integrated system," he adds. Target reduction in fuel burn for the centreline engine is 20%.
Dussault says PWC will be ready to launch the new engine next year, timing that suggests a possible position on the 90-seat turboprop that ATR partner Alenia says it is committed to developing. Bombardier has been considering a derivative of the Q400 for the 90-seat sector.
Meanwhile, PWC is building a prototype engine which Dussault says will be ready for full-up testing next year, probably in Montreal. Dussault says the company has received "some raw materials" for the engine and is starting detailed manufacturing, with the first compressor unit to be ready for testing potentially later this year.
Once a launch customer is identified, PWC, per its usual process, will build 8-10 test engines and begin a flight test campaign on the company's Boeing 747SP testbed from its Mirabel facility. The most recent new engine test campaign for PWC took place in 1998 with the certification of the Q400's PW150 engine on the company's Boeing 720 testbed, an aircraft that is being retired.
Why we need prop limits in the next PWA. Have someone spread this around........
PWC: Roomier fuselage key for next generation turboprop
Pratt & Whitney Canada this summer will begin assembling portions of its next-generation turboprop engine in anticipation of a launch platform for a clean sheet 90-100-seat turboprop potentially as early as 2012.
"Most sales today are for 70-seat aircraft," says Richard Dussault, P&WC vice-president of marketing. "We definitely see a place for 90- to 100-seat aircraft and that's where we're aiming for with a 5,000-7,000shp engine. We could easily do 8,000shp as well."
Rather than linear extensions of current product lines dominated by ATR and Bombardier aircraft powered by PWC engines, Dussault says there's a "clear push" for aircraft that are more spacious in cabin size than today's turboprops, a trend exhibited in the evolution from small-cabin first generation regional jets to the larger Embraer EJets and Bombardier CSeries families.
"The size of the aircraft relatively speaking might be a bit larger than today's turboprop, with larger overhead bins," he adds.
In terms of speed and altitude, Dussault says 300-350kt (555-647km/hr) is the "most likely goal of that market" with similar cruise altitudes to today's turboprops - in the mid-20,000ft (6,096m) range.
Fastest in today's turboprop fleet is the Bombardier Q400 with a maximum cruise speed of 360kt. The 68-78-seat aircraft is powered by two Pratt PW150A engines, each rated at 5,070shp (3,780kW), and connected to six-bladed Dowty Aerospace propellers.
"The big question is speed," says Dussault. "To preserve the economy of turboprop, you have to have the right speed. Though higher speed gives longer routes and more turns for the aircraft per day, it comes with higher fuel costs. When turboprops became very popular in end of the 1990s, [lower] speed was the tradeoff."
PWC is working with sister company Hamilton Sundstrand to develop an integrated propulsion system offering which will include the propeller, engine, nacelle and associated components. However Dussault says PWC will offer an engine-only option if a launch airframer decides to perform that work in-house.
Dussault expects the clean sheet aircraft to have "sixed-bladed or more" propellers that use "conventional" propeller technologies. "A lot of the technology will come in the way we integrate the engine and propeller control into single integrated system," he adds. Target reduction in fuel burn for the centreline engine is 20%.
Dussault says PWC will be ready to launch the new engine next year, timing that suggests a possible position on the 90-seat turboprop that ATR partner Alenia says it is committed to developing. Bombardier has been considering a derivative of the Q400 for the 90-seat sector.
Meanwhile, PWC is building a prototype engine which Dussault says will be ready for full-up testing next year, probably in Montreal. Dussault says the company has received "some raw materials" for the engine and is starting detailed manufacturing, with the first compressor unit to be ready for testing potentially later this year.
Once a launch customer is identified, PWC, per its usual process, will build 8-10 test engines and begin a flight test campaign on the company's Boeing 747SP testbed from its Mirabel facility. The most recent new engine test campaign for PWC took place in 1998 with the certification of the Q400's PW150 engine on the company's Boeing 720 testbed, an aircraft that is being retired.
When I went to Punta Cana there were lots of half naked women, mostly European, none were young. Well, except 1 American. Oh, and lots of banana hammocks.
There were a lot of naked children at the pool. Don't ask me. I thought it was weird but I guess some parents are okay with the el natural child.
There were a lot of naked children at the pool. Don't ask me. I thought it was weird but I guess some parents are okay with the el natural child.
There were a lot of Russians when I was there. There was also a Braziilian gal with an absolutely world class ... when I would begin mojito ingestion right after breakfast, I liked to have a good view of her for the day.

The russian women ate more fruit and melons than you could believe. It was like if you let my son loose in an ice cream store...pounds of fruit at each setting.
Also, my post made it seem like mojitos were cheap - they were free - the place was cheap / inexpensive.
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A contract which a big turboprop loophole is like driving an SUV with the windows rolled down and no seat belts ...

Don't worry. It was only a test.

Don't worry. It was only a test.
There was talk that Airbus was trying to team Embraer and ATR together to build a big turboprop. I swear if you straighten the wing on the E-Jet and put props on it you'll have a heck of a good turboprop... hope Delta buys them. I'll be so happy to fly it.
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