Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-05-2011 | 10:23 AM
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Perhaps dropping the threshold for premium to 70-75 hours with a cap, or some hybrid of hour based and GS premium pay.
IMO, the triggers for premium pay should be improved, but should not adversely effect manning. We have some sharp guys in our scheduling committee and a couple of scheduling gurus in the negotiating committee, I'm sure they can find some formula to increase premium pay without reducing the number of pilots needed to fly our schedule.
10-05-2011 | 10:36 AM
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Just like most the roads around the airport (Eureka Rd is a mine field). Wait til winter when the plows rip up all the asphalt patchwork! T
Last I heard the airport had plenty of cash (know a guy who knows a guy in airport management). Their spending a ton of cash to build the run up pad and redo the taxiways over by the Fedex and Delta hangers (in between 4r and 4l).
Last I heard the airport had plenty of cash (know a guy who knows a guy in airport management). Their spending a ton of cash to build the run up pad and redo the taxiways over by the Fedex and Delta hangers (in between 4r and 4l).
I've seen all that construction on the other side of 22L, wondered what it was. High traffic area over there I guess.
Just like redoing 27R - very important runway...
10-05-2011 | 10:51 AM
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10-05-2011 | 11:05 AM
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I'm not opposed to the idea completely, but I am concerned about encouraging pilots to fly more hours to obtain premium pay. The more hours each of us flies, the fewer pilots we need in each category. Not good in my opinion. OTOH, GS allow premium pay without having to necessarily fly that many hours in a month. Even reserves can get them.
Perhaps dropping the threshold for premium to 70-75 hours with a cap, or some hybrid of hour based and GS premium pay.
IMO, the triggers for premium pay should be improved, but should not adversely effect manning. We have some sharp guys in our scheduling committee and a couple of scheduling gurus in the negotiating committee, I'm sure they can find some formula to increase premium pay without reducing the number of pilots needed to fly our schedule.
Perhaps dropping the threshold for premium to 70-75 hours with a cap, or some hybrid of hour based and GS premium pay.
IMO, the triggers for premium pay should be improved, but should not adversely effect manning. We have some sharp guys in our scheduling committee and a couple of scheduling gurus in the negotiating committee, I'm sure they can find some formula to increase premium pay without reducing the number of pilots needed to fly our schedule.
10-05-2011 | 11:10 AM
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10-05-2011 | 12:34 PM
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I prefer a hard cap of 80 credit hours and the return of the bow wave!
6:00 min. per CALENDAR DAY.... No "average" anything. PER DAY for ALL events (training, home study, vacation, Reserve, DH only, Short call, non-domicile calendar day layover, etc.)!
Making premium pay easy is just a way to get guys to wh0re themselves out and reduce staffing.
6:00 min. per CALENDAR DAY.... No "average" anything. PER DAY for ALL events (training, home study, vacation, Reserve, DH only, Short call, non-domicile calendar day layover, etc.)!
Making premium pay easy is just a way to get guys to wh0re themselves out and reduce staffing.
Shiz;
As far as I'm concerned that is a pretty acceptable fix too. It isn't that I am wishy washy. I definitely dont want a system in which I am constantly wondering if I should work more days for more money. I want to work a reasonable amount for more money. I like to be with my family a lot more than I like to be on the road.
Absolutely agree on the min day value for all items training, vacation, etc.
As far as I'm concerned that is a pretty acceptable fix too. It isn't that I am wishy washy. I definitely dont want a system in which I am constantly wondering if I should work more days for more money. I want to work a reasonable amount for more money. I like to be with my family a lot more than I like to be on the road.
Absolutely agree on the min day value for all items training, vacation, etc.
If the company needs me to do something, it's 6 hours per day - that includes vacation, training, distance learning etc. DHs need to count as a duty period as well for this 6 hour pay thingy.
10-05-2011 | 12:49 PM
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Charters to DFW...... Nice!
10-05-2011 | 12:53 PM
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Just quoting you but not for any other reason but to add to the discussion.
One thing that creeps in to my mind with the talk of AMR and a possible CH11 is the:
RA and Co will want labor peace with us. I would not be overly surprised to see a extension offer with pay and a few contract fixes thrown our way. Just put you mind around the possibility, and what you would expect out of it. No need to comment, but just think about that.
I have no info, it is just as though that I figured I would share. I do not want it to catch anyone off guard.
Also make sure everyone you are flying with fills out the survey.!!!!
10-05-2011 | 01:07 PM
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I'm not opposed to the idea completely, but I am concerned about encouraging pilots to fly more hours to obtain premium pay. The more hours each of us flies, the fewer pilots we need in each category. Not good in my opinion. OTOH, GS allow premium pay without having to necessarily fly that many hours in a month. Even reserves can get them.
Perhaps dropping the threshold for premium to 70-75 hours with a cap, or some hybrid of hour based and GS premium pay.
IMO, the triggers for premium pay should be improved, but should not adversely effect manning. We have some sharp guys in our scheduling committee and a couple of scheduling gurus in the negotiating committee, I'm sure they can find some formula to increase premium pay without reducing the number of pilots needed to fly our schedule.
Perhaps dropping the threshold for premium to 70-75 hours with a cap, or some hybrid of hour based and GS premium pay.
IMO, the triggers for premium pay should be improved, but should not adversely effect manning. We have some sharp guys in our scheduling committee and a couple of scheduling gurus in the negotiating committee, I'm sure they can find some formula to increase premium pay without reducing the number of pilots needed to fly our schedule.
I completely agree reroute.
And like shiz mentioned, 80 hour cap, I'm interested...
10-05-2011 | 01:16 PM
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Another question, we never really put pay demands in terms of actual annual salary. We play the % game and let the pilot figure it out.
But here is my best estimation of our seniority by category, as we all know 12 years tops it off. But you can look at the FedEx/SWA equivalent aircraft and get a feel of where seniority is and there is my question - what should the average FedEx/SWA equivalent pilot be able to afford comfortably?
For instance and I'm going to go low ball here just to not persuade the answer:
MD88 B should be able to afford a $100K house, 1 used $10K car every 10 years, 2 kids but no college fund, spouse doesn't have to work.
MD88 A should be 40% better.
That's my low ball. Hopefully you get the point, but should the average be $70K a year? Or $130K a year? Determined by what they can afford.
But here is my best estimation of our seniority by category, as we all know 12 years tops it off. But you can look at the FedEx/SWA equivalent aircraft and get a feel of where seniority is and there is my question - what should the average FedEx/SWA equivalent pilot be able to afford comfortably?
For instance and I'm going to go low ball here just to not persuade the answer:
MD88 B should be able to afford a $100K house, 1 used $10K car every 10 years, 2 kids but no college fund, spouse doesn't have to work.
MD88 A should be 40% better.
That's my low ball. Hopefully you get the point, but should the average be $70K a year? Or $130K a year? Determined by what they can afford.
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