Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-01-2009, 10:59 AM
#7771
Happy to be here
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A-320A
Posts: 18,563
That's right. They sure aren't "speed brakes." The speed brakes are the flaps, but you can't use them without reconfiguring the hydraulic system. 67 cockpit lighting rheostats or switches, some of which short out if the rubber "approach chart holder" dries up and falls out. Many "repaired" with electrical tape. Poles and Ladders... at least what is ineffective at controlling is unreliable. What is astonishingly redundant is a fire hazard. The seats are uncomfortable but it doesn't have the gas or the wing to go very far.
CAL-ALPA called it right... the whole airplane is offensive. I'm still convinced Mr. Douglas wife had an affair with a First Officer and he was seeking revenge.
But still, I'm happy if we get more of them.
CAL-ALPA called it right... the whole airplane is offensive. I'm still convinced Mr. Douglas wife had an affair with a First Officer and he was seeking revenge.
But still, I'm happy if we get more of them.
As for LAX. I like the flying and you know it might be time to leave ATL for a few years......
06-01-2009, 11:13 AM
#7772
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,012
06-01-2009, 11:19 AM
#7773
Happy to be here
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A-320A
Posts: 18,563
No idea if there will be displacements. They have let it open ended. I am sure if depends on if our forecasts change.
As for waiting. Who knows? I am looking a few options. One of them is to stay put, but like I said, it depends on the next few months.
So Bar you going to run for FO rep?
As for waiting. Who knows? I am looking a few options. One of them is to stay put, but like I said, it depends on the next few months.
So Bar you going to run for FO rep?
06-01-2009, 11:37 AM
#7774
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,386
Using the speedbrakes to disarm the autobrakes is almost standard practice on the 757/767. You apply pedal pressure to try and match the braking rate and bump the handle down a inch and you get a very smooth transition to manual braking.
The issue is that the FAA could consider it a configuration change on the runway which is not allowed since you are also lowering the spoilers just a bit. Normally this is done around 80 knots and has no aerodynamic effect but it has been a issue and has bit one Delta crew with the FAA.
The issue is that the FAA could consider it a configuration change on the runway which is not allowed since you are also lowering the spoilers just a bit. Normally this is done around 80 knots and has no aerodynamic effect but it has been a issue and has bit one Delta crew with the FAA.
06-01-2009, 11:44 AM
#7775
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2005
Position: 767ER capt
Posts: 1,190
That doesn't make me a bad person, does it?
06-01-2009, 11:45 AM
#7776
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: 765-A
Posts: 6,844
Right now you guys get paid by the beacon. So, who "has" it? 
06-01-2009, 11:49 AM
#7777
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,539
It is the Captain's switch by tradition here.
In recent years there has been a movement on the MD-88 and some 737-800 bases toward the FO actuating the beacon. Some are doing it now as a matter of course without asking prior permission. It has caused a couple of crews to get in hot water with the beacon running and the airplane nowhere close to pushback, and it has caused some intra cockpit "CRM" discussion. In any case, as it's the pay switch, it's the Captain's call.
In recent years there has been a movement on the MD-88 and some 737-800 bases toward the FO actuating the beacon. Some are doing it now as a matter of course without asking prior permission. It has caused a couple of crews to get in hot water with the beacon running and the airplane nowhere close to pushback, and it has caused some intra cockpit "CRM" discussion. In any case, as it's the pay switch, it's the Captain's call.
06-01-2009, 11:50 AM
#7778
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Position: A-320A
Posts: 18,563
Who ever turns it on first. 
In the 88 the FO generally turns it on at the CA's request since it is on his side of the dash board. In the Boeing jets the FO's only touch that switch when the CA leaves the aircraft on the way to the hotel.......
In the 88 the FO generally turns it on at the CA's request since it is on his side of the dash board. In the Boeing jets the FO's only touch that switch when the CA leaves the aircraft on the way to the hotel.......
06-01-2009, 12:56 PM
#7779
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: Work
Posts: 507
Some CAs I fly with do walkarounds...most don't..........I got in late on a commute once (ATC issues) and got to the jet 12 prior to push. The Capt didn't do the walkaround and was on his phone...and we were a few late pushing due to me being late, having to do the walkaround, etc....and it was a beautiful day..something about that ramp just scares folks. :-)
Seems the Marine CAs do them.....I guess they remember what it was like in the trenches. Whatever I don't care...I just do them all unless told otherwise now.
06-01-2009, 01:00 PM
#7780
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Urban chicken rancher.
Posts: 6,070
On the 800, the CA calls for the Pushback/Start Checklist and the FO runs it. The beacon comes on when its time to push. Pretty simple. The FO turns it off during the shutdown check. I've only had one CA that wanted to control it (and he'd just come off the 88). Maybe its an LAX thing but it I've never had a CA reach for it.
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