Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-10-2011 | 07:12 PM
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All of the above happened in bankruptcy court. Do you expect that to happen again? What is the money in the D&S plan for if not for disability AND survivorship. What is all that money really doing for us now (beyond the disability part)?
I should also add it's funding the first 60 million dollars of our sick leave too!
Denny
I should also add it's funding the first 60 million dollars of our sick leave too!
Denny
You're right, the money is for Disability and Survivorship. Right now I'm told the majority of the funds are paying disability benefits (mostly non-seniority list), but supposedly there's a big wave of survivor benefits that will start being paid. I think most of the funds in the Trust are allocated to fund those future survivor benefits. I can see us hitching our wagon to a D&S survivor benefit just as the Trust gets sucked on hard, potentially leaving our survivors with an empty bag. Again, no thanks. JL's idea is a non-starter with me.
Show me the money in my name, please.
10-10-2011 | 07:12 PM
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From: Light Chop
Question, a buddy called me with the understanding that some CP's are saying hiring of 300-500 pilots in 2012.
I could see that for retiree's, not 2012 retiree's but retiree's in the future and of course if they want to be 2013 is a better year but they won't know enough to make that bet until 2012.
At this point I could not care less. Until it's announced. Tired of rumors of airplanes, hiring and growth, few of which come true. But for the sake of those from the outside looking in, anyone else hearing that?
I could see that for retiree's, not 2012 retiree's but retiree's in the future and of course if they want to be 2013 is a better year but they won't know enough to make that bet until 2012.
At this point I could not care less. Until it's announced. Tired of rumors of airplanes, hiring and growth, few of which come true. But for the sake of those from the outside looking in, anyone else hearing that?
10-10-2011 | 07:14 PM
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10-10-2011 | 07:17 PM
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Is there a football game on tonight? I can't tear myself away from this 11-2 baseball game. (And I won't.)
10-10-2011 | 07:21 PM
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Nice! That little gem must have been written by the same scope lawyers that couldn't think of the RAH separate certificate trick several years after RAH's scope lawyers already thought of it. So we pulldown to fund their A-380 fantasy jobs program while they hide capacity by subcontracting it? We seriously fell for that?
In context this is really not looking so hot especially considering the addition of another euro dance partner...
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10-10-2011 | 07:26 PM
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Isn't that sad?
Here we are at "The latest and greatest about Delta" and all its about is speculating about hiring for attrition maybe 2 years from now...
I better keep my mouth shut, else I'll get lectured again
"You should be lucky to have a job, look at the situation at American..."
The reality is probably more along the lines of: Delta was a first mover in the big consolidation game and now needs to wait its turn until the other players have executed their moves. In the meantime it will be status-qou while the company grows virtually via our partners, JV and otherwise...
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Here we are at "The latest and greatest about Delta" and all its about is speculating about hiring for attrition maybe 2 years from now...
I better keep my mouth shut, else I'll get lectured again
"You should be lucky to have a job, look at the situation at American..."
The reality is probably more along the lines of: Delta was a first mover in the big consolidation game and now needs to wait its turn until the other players have executed their moves. In the meantime it will be status-qou while the company grows virtually via our partners, JV and otherwise...
Cheers
George
Target numero uno by each airline seems to be... employees and vendors.
Oh but we'll get new airplanes! To replace old ones, but not completely. Oh but we'll expand through merger! But we won't expand the size of the two companies. But we'll hire! But will the total pilot group number grow or shrink?
Everyone is doing the same thing. I'm not getting excited until they say- we're growing.
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10-10-2011 | 07:29 PM
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10-10-2011 | 07:30 PM
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Sitting in my beautiful Doubletree room in ATL tonight. I'm going to do the A330 run time test starting tomorrow and my excitement is beyond description!!
So, I haven't looked at anything prior to getting here and the plan is to read everything CLOSELY while going through the course tomorrow and Wednesday. I guess there is 5 of us and they will throw out the fast and slow times and average the other three of us together for the official pay time.
Now, show of hands. I found out this weekend that IF I pass the ESV at the end I'll get credit for it. If not, it's no jeopardy. So, ....should I study for the test (ie LOD) like I would if I was going through the course for real. Or, should I drink beer at night and give updates on APC?
Ferd <-------probably has NO chance of passing this monster only going through the memory stick once
So, I haven't looked at anything prior to getting here and the plan is to read everything CLOSELY while going through the course tomorrow and Wednesday. I guess there is 5 of us and they will throw out the fast and slow times and average the other three of us together for the official pay time.
Now, show of hands. I found out this weekend that IF I pass the ESV at the end I'll get credit for it. If not, it's no jeopardy. So, ....should I study for the test (ie LOD) like I would if I was going through the course for real. Or, should I drink beer at night and give updates on APC?
Ferd <-------probably has NO chance of passing this monster only going through the memory stick once
10-10-2011 | 07:34 PM
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From: Light Chop
Sitting in my beautiful Doubletree room in ATL tonight. I'm going to do the A330 run time test starting tomorrow and my excitement is beyond description!!
So, I haven't looked at anything prior to getting here and the plan is to read everything CLOSELY while going through the course tomorrow and Wednesday. I guess there is 5 of us and they will throw out the fast and slow times and average the other three of us together for the official pay time.
Now, show of hands. I found out this weekend that IF I pass the ESV at the end I'll get credit for it. If not, it's no jeopardy. So, show of hands..............should I study for the test (ie LOD) like I would if I was going through the course for real. Or, should I drink beer at night and give updates on APC?
Ferd <-------probably has NO chance of passing this monster only going through the memory stick once
So, I haven't looked at anything prior to getting here and the plan is to read everything CLOSELY while going through the course tomorrow and Wednesday. I guess there is 5 of us and they will throw out the fast and slow times and average the other three of us together for the official pay time.
Now, show of hands. I found out this weekend that IF I pass the ESV at the end I'll get credit for it. If not, it's no jeopardy. So, show of hands..............should I study for the test (ie LOD) like I would if I was going through the course for real. Or, should I drink beer at night and give updates on APC?
Ferd <-------probably has NO chance of passing this monster only going through the memory stick once
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