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Old 10-23-2011 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
The plane yells at you in a french accent and is SCARY because you're never really in control.
Three things to know about the "retard" callout:

The first time it's asking you, the second time it's telling you and the third time it's calling you...
Old 10-23-2011 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
Three things to know about the "retard" callout:

The first time it's asking you, the second time it's telling you and the third time it's calling you...
My personal record is 5 retards.

That french guy doesn't hold anything back.
Old 10-23-2011 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Am I wrong to think the HI merger would be a better deal than a domestic lower 48 merger?
HI would be a lot of good and a little bad. Over all a winner. They would buff our Pacific network even more, common fleet, foot in the door for 717's, and of course we would be the leaders in the HI market going both directions.

If AK was gobbled up by someone else, or C2012 ended the code share abuse and AK took their toys and went home (highly unlikely) we would have to overfly the key portions of their network with at least partial frequency. No more mythical excuses that no one except AK (and SWA and VX and SKYW for several different airlines) can dare fly up and down the legendary, impossible to compete in, zero yield west coast.

In any case, the number of pilots there is so few and what they would bring to our network so disproportionately greater, the SLI would be pretty painless and quick. Probably very close to a ratio and only a few fences here and there. I just hope it happens before they buff their list 20-30% by running just a few classes real quick.
Old 10-24-2011 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
I heard a big rumor about CVG from an airport employee (not a DAL employee). Apparently someone is renovating some old gates there. They believe it is SWA. Anyone else here the same?
Posted by a "SWA CA" that was not specifically discussing CVG:


"In Side Letter 10, currently being voted on, there is a requirement to open another 737 base by 1 Jan 2013. Unknown where it will be."
Old 10-24-2011 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
I'm going a little better than three-fourths. How about 8253?
Is it too late to change my answer to 8254?

Or wait, maybe 1?

Of course, leave it to the Pittsburgh Steeler fan to bet...



Can I change my answer?
Old 10-24-2011 | 04:24 AM
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Spoke with an m88 capt & a 320 capt in atl yesterday...neither had filled out the survey. M88 guy said he forgot?! 320 guy said he had no intention of doing it?! I said guys, if it's too much work, at least do the check boxes...takes 20 mins. I'm not encouraged.
Old 10-24-2011 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LivingTheDream
Spoke with an m88 capt & a 320 capt in atl yesterday...neither had filled out the survey. M88 guy said he forgot?! 320 guy said he had no intention of doing it?! I said guys, if it's too much work, at least do the check boxes...takes 20 mins. I'm not encouraged.
Could the apathy come, from the feeling by many, that the results will be ignored by the MEC/Negotiating Committee.
Old 10-24-2011 | 04:43 AM
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Did my survey as soon as it came out! Come on guys...
Old 10-24-2011 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sinca3
Rumors from the "big meeting last week":
AE first couple of weeks of Nov. smaller than expected, little shuffling of staffing only
Hiring not planned but needed to cover expected retirements so possible late 2012
An Extra 30 737-900 possible due to our outstanding options
Expect an order for 777's...no time frame but possible. Do not expect to see any 747-8/A350 at DAL
Numbers are going to be flat for the next 1-1.5 years due to economy. EU especially disappointing mainly due to economy over there, mainly Greece dragging everyone down
Pacific and South America doing well but need more,China will be the biggest economy in the world in our lifetime. DAL is positioning to be #1 there look for more JV's
Look for those said 777 orders to go place that we don't go...ie Malaysia
Lots of fuel hedging talk....should listen to the podcast from last week.
The best line of the day:
Richard see's no benefit of more animosity, he wants the contract done by the amendable date!
Just regurgitating what I was told.....

Just trying to grasp some of this, mostly the bold part.

I am guessing this was the chief pilot powwow, not the union roadshow?

Anyone with more info to add?

This all just sounds like snippets that line pilots want to hear...organic growth, contract by amenable date, shiny new jets and more of them. etc.
Old 10-24-2011 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by chuck416
Hi FTB,
Dear Lord, I sincerely hope you are WAAAAY off base. At the MEM road-show last week, T.O. (or one of the other guys) indicated that it was something in the 6K range of guys who'd responded to date. If that's the best we get in the way of survey returns, man, are we ever going to get @#!$%-slapped on C2012. You'll have a hard time ever finding a guy who would admit to NOT filling out the survey. If 7K pilots is all we get interested in the process, I don't even want to contemplate what our next contract will look like.
Chuck

Talked to a buddy of mine on the phone yesterday...his words:

"I wont waste 5 minutes of my time let alone one hour to do anything for ALPA. They wont listen and I want them gone yesterday. They already have their contract plans set and I'd be shocked if we got a 15% raise. Scope recapture...never, not from ALPA. If we didn't have agency shop, alpa membership would be less than 30%."

Again his words, a DALs, mid seniority pilot...his perspective.

Coming from him, I was actually very surprised to hear him speak so passionately and bluntly about his ALPA dissatisfaction.
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