Thats what I thought.:confused:

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Thanks since 3 and freightguy!

DH,

I've got to correct you on this. You will be loitering outside the lounge, not inside the lounge partaking of the salami. The salami from this contract will be coming from a entirely different direction. One word of advice: Buttplug.

Seems that most of the respondent's post regarding the survey on this forum are fairly consistent. The one question I have is regarding reserve. When some express a desire to bring seniority into the reserve system, what exactly does this mean? Does it mean that the more senior get to choose to stay at home and not fly?

I expressed a desire to have two separate systems. You are either a line holder, or you are a reserve pilot. If your seniority can hold a line, then you can't randomly decide to bid reserve during the holidays to get more time at home.

If seniority were considered in the reserve system, instead of RAW value, wouldn't the more junior folks be getting a worse deal than we have already? If the systems were separated, at least the junior guys would have the opportunity to have a little seniority within the reserve system. And that seniority would only apply for bidding purposes, not choosing to stay home and not fly. Thoughts?

I think when people talk about seniority on reserve, what they mean is to decouple your raw score from your ability to pick up a trip. IE, if you are senior, you have priority for your preference rather than just lowering your raw by 15 points.

My input ref reserve was to have a shortcall day credit 16% of the alv. so if you flew a trip or sat shortcall, your credit for each would help you approach the alv. This would result in the possibility of a commuter, 60% of DAL pilots, being able to have a life as a reserve pilot. Also, Int'l shortcall would be 12 vice 24 hours, the same as domestic...manning positive.

My reserve bidding faux pas one month resulted in me flying 64 hours and sitting 5 days of 24 hour shortcall with commutes on each end of everything. I was not a happy delta camper that month and my proposals would hope to end that sort of life.

This gets reserve back to what it was years ago right? Where senior pilots didn't fly?

I prefer the raw score system but it needs improvements and one of those is in YS'ing for a specific trip. If they did that by seniority I'm fine with that but the current method is not acceptable. There is a lot of operating in the blind and being at the mercy of a particular scheduling doing stuff at will that needs changing. Such as request PM short call and get 0730 when pilots who are junior and have lower RAW's get 1430.

It flat out needs to be computerized and published. There is no need to cloak reserve utilization and short call orders. It's no different then PBS, we can see via PBS the reasons why something happened and see what everyone else did- so why not do that for reserve utilization?

But right now senior reserve pilots have weekends off on my airplane and fly next to nothing. That option is there on the domestic side. But on the international side I know things are different.

If seniority were considered in the reserve system, instead of RAW value, wouldn't the more junior folks be getting a worse deal than we have already? If the systems were separated, at least the junior guys would have the opportunity to have a little seniority within the reserve system. And that seniority would only apply for bidding purposes, not choosing to stay home and not fly. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]


Not necessarily or in my experience. It allowed commuters to fly vice sit in a hotel room and when I was junior in base, it allowed me to fill up and be done for the month. As a junior bubba, got many xmasses & t-days off using this method. :cool:

And why is Sailingfun adamant that Swelbar's info is correct (but not SWAPAs?). :confused:

They'll forward it to Swelbar to validate. :D