Think they were talking about the fact Airbus is up over 330 orders in the first couple of days of the Paris Ari Show as airlines all around the planet and here at home are planning narrow body fleet renewal.

One poster was dismissing Republic's order while the other poster was pointing out that the chances of Delta not taking airplanes is statistically higher than Republic's.

If I'm not mistaken, Republic has taken every airplane they've ever ordered and usually re-orders before the airplanes are all delivered. Of course houses rose in price consistently from the great depression to 2008.

In semi related news, Boeing announced more lay offs of their employees this week. Wish management would focus more on their product line and less on union busting.

Could've been avoided with a simple "hey, you with the bottom back end of your jet on fire, eject, eject, eject."

Oh wait.

Disregard. :D

"Am I here because you're there or are you there because I'm here?" Evidently a line used on the cranky RIC ground controller who I'm sure not only do pilots want to sucker punch but probably so does the guy standing next to him.

Controllers are by and large pretty sharp in the airports we fly in and out of and they have one huge advantage, they see more of our airplane than we do.

But saying your takeoff clearance is cancelled conjures up the idea that the issue at hand is a technical one and not a life threatening one and pilots may respond in kind.

Bar mentioned that Airbus said the C-Series was dead.

With Republic, mind you a Delta Connection carrier that the NMB is jumping up and down begging someone to ask again if they're a STS, is ordering A320s for I guess Frontier:

I think F9 will not be part of RAH much longer. BB is realizing he made a mistake.

Boeing is a ship without a rudder, as some CEOs say in passing.

If Airbus continues winning and Boeing continues to flounder then the disparity will only get worse. Hell, even SWA is now saying their next aircraft order doesn't have to be a Boeing. Something has gone really wrong there. Maybe it's age. Maybe Boeing after the 787 debacle and it's enormous B/E on the thing may be willing to just give up commercial aerospace after their product run their course?

As to the CHS thing, I think its union busting and sometimes union busting is over more things then just pay. I think Boeing is mad as hell at their SEA employees and the state of Washington and I don't think that's completely unfounded. You can't beat a golden goose to its death and expect it to still produce. Add that to mismanagement and yikes. Still to me it's obvious the 787 outsourcing and the CHS plant are retaliation but what the NLRB is doing on behalf of Boeing unions could be very bad for the 28 non-right-to-work states.

As to RAH, I could see the skepticism to RAH taking the aircraft ordered. To my knowledge this is the second order by RAH for RAH with the first being the C-Series. The rest have been orders to do outsourced flying and so they've yet to stand on on their own two feet and order something and fly it.

Thanks 'dude. My first time getting an award under this system.

While I'm typing, do I need to save brain cells or kill some off. Boeing guy going to Airbus? (tic)

I wonder if the C-Series timing was just a tad off? if they waited to now they could've been positioned themselves as the only Airbus alternative for future narrow bodies instead of previously having to be positioned as the 3rd option.

But who knew Boeing was going to be like they are, that Embraer would as they had always said stay out of the 110+ seat range jets and that Airbus would be doing Charlie Sheen winning impressions even while their A380 began its best wrecking ball impressions.

You know what, maybe Carl can divest from Spacklair and put his money together with Newk's attractiveness and buy McDonnell Douglas commercial back from Boeing before the only commercial airliners built in the U.S. are built in Mobile by Airbus.

Don't know if FO's teach in the SIM, but I believe if he does, he gets paid at the highest rate anyone junior to him in the system gets paid while he is teaching. I.E. if someone junior is holding A330B that is the rate he would get paid. Clear as mud?

Thanks for the reply scambo. Hungarian proverbs?:cool: You are wise beyond years....:D

Wow, I see the light. Thanks maddogmax it's all starting to compute. Not a bad gig if you don't mind the SIM.

I hear you brother, I dropped from 60% in my category to 0% when they moved the whole category to Seattle and Detroit. That is the deal we struck, parity on day one, pay rate increases, merger stock; it was all a trade to move stuff around to make more bucks for the company. We shouldn't be surprised when the company cashes in on their end of the deal.

I am not making light of the changes we have all undergone. Mergers are very disruptive events in all senses, new procedures, new bases, new faces, new training, all of it is very unsettling. It is natural that these bids force those unsettled feelings to the surface. I think that over time many of these feelings will diminish.