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Old 10-29-2011 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by fisherpilot
Hopefully this will be changing for you guys soon. I honestly can't see how it can't as long as everyone holds their ground in the upcoming negotiations
Dalpa will be holding their ground alright.
Old 10-29-2011 | 05:54 AM
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No kidding! I'm on 12 year DC-9 Captain pay and he made about $26,000 MORE than I did last year!
Sailing will show you how that's just not true. Surely you're hiding something.
Old 10-29-2011 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by fisherpilot
Hopefully this will be changing for you guys soon. I honestly can't see how it can't as long as everyone holds their ground in the upcoming negotiations
Our problem is that we have a union that has been completely co-opted by our management. Our union will not talk to us about our own survey results, and will not even discuss the opener after it's exchanged with management. Our union continues to lie about SWAPA's pay rates and lied about why they couldn't publish the contract comparisons with our joint venture partners like Air France.

For us to gain an industry leading contract, we will have to fight our union as hard as management because there's no difference between the two. We're trying to vote out ALPA and install a real union before negotiations begin, but we're still 2500 votes short. We have a very tough road ahead.

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Old 10-29-2011 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by fisherpilot
Hopefully this will be changing for you guys soon. I honestly can't see how it can't as long as everyone holds their ground in the upcoming negotiations
The way it won't is called apathy. Just finished a trip with a Senior ER A who was saying he should do that contract thingy - I had to tell him he had already missed the extended deadline.

We here on APC are pretty involved, the trick will be to get the rest of the herd moving in the same direction.
Old 10-29-2011 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by dragon
The way it won't is called apathy. Just finished a trip with a Senior ER A who was saying he should do that contract thingy - I had to tell him he had already missed the extended deadline.

We here on APC are pretty involved, the trick will be to get the rest of the herd moving in the same direction.
Agreed, when I ask about the survey, as in "have you filled out the contract survey"....several claimed they had heard nothing about it!
Old 10-29-2011 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by fisherpilot
Hopefully this will be changing for you guys soon. I honestly can't see how it can't as long as everyone holds their ground in the upcoming negotiations
As long as we refuse to tolerate the debate even being framed around COLA being called a "raise over the life of" and get a handle on scope at all levels we might have a chance.

I'm sure we could easily get 30, 40 maybe even 50% fake "raises" if we did little to nothing over scope and it took half a decade or more to get those fake "raises". By that time inflation/currency devaluation will have taken away most or all of our fake raise. COLA over time is not a raise, it is merely break even to account for wage destroying headwinds. Its like an additional couple thousand pounds of gas to fly west in a head wind. That's not optional or luxury gas, that's mission critical gas just to break even.

COLA IS NOT A RAISE!!!!!!!!!!
Old 10-29-2011 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
Here's another...


That's for working 14-15 days/month. Can't wait for Sailingfun to come along and tell us all that when including the higher DC, DAL pay is within a few % of SWA pay.
Wow! $285K. That's about $155K MORE than I made last year as a DC-9A! That would be one heck of a DC contribution!
Old 10-29-2011 | 10:32 AM
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This is not good!

Qantas responds to industrial action
Sydney, 29 October 2011
Qantas today announced that, from 8pm AEDT on Monday 31 October 2011, it will lock out all employees who will be covered by the industrial agreements currently being negotiated with the Australian Licenced Engineers Union (ALAEA), the Transport Workers Union (TWU) and the Australian and International Pilots Union (AIPA).
Virgin Australia has quickly responded to the grounding of Qantas' mainline domestic and long-haul flights that went into affect at 5pm on 29-Oct-2011 in a bold move to make three of Qantas' unions settle ongoing wage and job security disputes.

In a nearly globally unprecedented occurrence, Virgin Australia is liaising with the Australian government to allow its alliance partners – Air New Zealand, Delta, Etihad and Singapore Airlines – to operate their foreign-registered aircraft domestically in Australia to help clear the impending backlog of Qantas customers. Qantas says it carrier 68,000 domestic and international passengers a day.
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Old 10-29-2011 | 10:41 AM
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And in other news:

Several Commercial Crew unions have called for an industrial action from Saturday October 29 to Wednesday November 02, 2011 included. We are compelled to reduce our flight schedule accordingly and we do not exclude "on the spot" cancellations as well as delays.
We apologize to customers affected by this situation and will do our utmost to reduce any inconvenience.

At the present time, we plan to cancel the following long-haul flights:

- On October29:
AF022-AF023 Paris / New York / Paris
AF008-AF009 Paris / New York / Paris
AF348-AF349 Paris / Montréal / Paris
AF072-AF073 Paris / Los Angeles / Paris
AF026-AF027 Paris / Washington / Paris
AF682-AF681 Paris / Atlanta / Paris
AF278-AF277 Paris / Tokyo-Narita / Paris
AF3848-AF3849 Paris / Abu Dhabi / Paris
AF834-AF833 Paris / Pointe Noire / Paris
AF946-AF943 Paris / Douala / Paris

- On October30:
AF022-AF023 Paris / New York / Paris
AF008-AF009 Paris / New York / Paris
AF344-AF345 Paris / Montréal / Paris
AF072-AF073 Paris / Los Angeles / Paris
AF026-AF027 Paris / Washington / Paris
AF682-AF681 Paris / Atlanta / Paris
AF278-AF277 Paris / Tokyo-Narita / Paris
AF3848-AF3849 Paris / Abu Dhabi / Paris
AF3510-AF3515 Paris / Saint Marteen / Paris
And since we are in a JV with AF we will be funding the strike for six of the ten city pairs...

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Old 10-29-2011 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
And in other news:



And since we are in a JV with AF we will be funding the strike for six of the ten city pairs...

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