Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Delta (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/)
-   -   Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/36912-any-latest-greatest-about-delta.html)

forgot to bid 10-30-2011 05:26 PM

I may be alone on this but I sit senior reserve and I am not interested in a seniority based reserve system. Maybe something with YS pick ups but what's wrong with reserve is the pencil on paper method of determining trips all of which is hidden from us before, during and after.

It may be an Icrew thing as that system is horrifically dated.

But a RAW score system is fair and predictable imo.

Cogf16 10-30-2011 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by trlaketige (Post 1075441)
Maybe I can help. As one who was "stuck" on reserve. You would put a card in (electronically) for position as a temporary block holder. If the company needed more, presto, you became a blockholder for the month. It would happen prior to monthly bidding and you participated just like permanent blockholders. I was able to hold a temp block for up to 6 months out of the year this way.

Jim

"If the company needed more pilots" See, that's the rub (or one of them) In the current system, pilots "flow" back and forth between line holder (not block:rolleyes:) and reserve at their own choice monthly. It gives you the choice and variety without being locked into one or the other. And as Ferd says, without monthly bids, it's even worse. Don't really see the advantage of separate "lists"

1234 10-30-2011 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1077517)
I may be alone on this but I sit senior reserve and I am not interested in a seniority based reserve system. Maybe something with YS pick ups but what's wrong with reserve is the pencil on paper method of determining trips all of which is hidden from us before, during and after.

It may be an Icrew thing as that system is horrifically dated.

But a RAW score system is fair and predictable imo.

I agree with you regarding the lack of "good" information for reserves. You can look at the reserves available and it might tell you there are zero available for a day and then look at the availability for the day and there are 14 people listed, some short and some long call. Now, I understand that even though someone may not be available, they are still on the availability list, but come on, how hard is it to have some actual good info for the pilots to view. Either you are available or you are not and if you are not, then they shouldn't show up on the availability list. Lack of I.T. and I am hopeful that our folks will fix it, problem is that is a low priority.

JABDIP 10-30-2011 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 1077382)
Where was this posted?

Email from Steve Hanlon Fleet Captain.

80ktsClamp 10-30-2011 06:44 PM

FTB takes his son to a gymnastics competition:

http://verydemotivational.files.word...-back-here.jpg

gloopy 10-30-2011 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1077500)
Can't be on duty 7 days in a row.

Actually you can, as long as you have a "24 hour period" of rest. And even then you should go straight to long call but we look the other way with that little F.A.R. bending gem.

Come on C2012.

gloopy 10-30-2011 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Cogf16 (Post 1077507)
Not that I don't agree with getting some/all of this, but what you list is probably well "north" of 1 to 1.5 billion a year in added pilot costs. VERY difficult proposition, especially with the fractured(donut) pilot group we have!:eek:

They found a billion a year in bag fees a while ago, not mention other ancillary revenue. Plus when fuel for 2011 went up above its already high budgeted amounts by another 3 billion, they found that as well, and managed to be very profitable.


We've wasted far more than a billion and change every year per year for a very long time on mega management blunders, hedging high and selling low, building a new oversized terminal in BOS so the competition could walk into our old one and dominate the market, billions and billions on blundered long term RJ contracts, exponentially increasing management bonuses in the face of some of the worst job performance the industry has ever seen and many, many others. Not to mention, how much in total did the little trip through Bankruptcy cost?

If we had the countless billions back our management teams have wasted on History Channel-esque blunders we'd be the most powerful airline on the planet.

Besides, what you worry we may not be able to afford is already being afforded by our primary low cost domestic competition in small 737's.

We can easily afford it...if we have the management talent to back it up. New flight bag sticker?..."It's The Management, Stupid!"

DAL 88 Driver 10-30-2011 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1077555)
They found a billion a year in bag fees a while ago, not mention other ancillary revenue. Plus when fuel for 2011 went up above its already high budgeted amounts by another 3 billion, they found that as well, and managed to be very profitable.


We've wasted far more than a billion and change every year per year for a very long time on mega management blunders, hedging high and selling low, building a new oversized terminal in BOS so the competition could walk into our old one and dominate the market, billions and billions on blundered long term RJ contracts, exponentially increasing management bonuses in the face of some of the worst job performance the industry has ever seen and many, many others. Not to mention, how much in total did the little trip through Bankruptcy cost?

If we had the countless billions back our management teams have wasted on History Channel-esque blunders we'd be the most powerful airline on the planet.

Besides, what you worry we may not be able to afford is already being afforded by our primary low cost domestic competition in small 737's.

We can easily afford it...if we have the management talent to back it up. New flight bag sticker?..."It's The Management, Stupid!"

I know it's been said before. But this seems like a good time to say it again:

Gloopy for MEC Chairman!!! :D

forgot to bid 10-30-2011 07:31 PM

80ktsclamp, the family man:

http://awkwardfamilypetphotos.com/wp...ost_rt_102.jpg

forgot to bid 10-30-2011 07:34 PM

80, one of these guys, also knows all of the words to the Lumberjack Song.

http://img.izismile.com/img/img3/201...tos_640_29.jpg

I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay, I sleep all night and work all day...



Lots of mustaches.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:26 AM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands