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Bucking Bar 10-31-2011 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 1077782)
Great question. Considering (as I understand it) a lot of our cash is borrowed/lines of credit.

Ferd <--------solid C accounting student back in the day

Exactly ... kind of like when I pull the credit card out at Pascals on A concourse instead of putting it on my credit card.

In other "news" Kim Kardashian is filing for divorce 72 days after her 10 million dollar wedding. Wish investing was as certain as the outcomes of ridiculously expensive Hollywood hook ups.

fishguy79 10-31-2011 09:40 AM

New 22 D 2 for May 12
 
There is a new 22d2 posted for May 12. I know this is not head count but it is a good indicator of what block hours are doing compared to the year before. For May 2011 total pilots required was 10297 and for May 2012 it is 9955. Most of the categories are the similar to the prior year. The biggest change was the DTW 744. CA went fm 224 to 180 and the FO's went from 251 to 190. This bid coming up could be interesting.

acl65pilot 10-31-2011 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by fishguy79 (Post 1077794)
There is a new 22d2 posted for May 12. I know this is not head count but it is a good indicator of what block hours are doing compared to the year before. For May 2011 total pilots required was 10297 and for May 2012 it is 9955. Most of the categories are the similar to the prior year. The biggest change was the DTW 744. CA went fm 224 to 180 and the FO's went from 251 to 190. This bid coming up could be interesting.

Yet they are keeping those three 744's in the fleet.....

Timbo 10-31-2011 09:51 AM

And they never did post a bid to replace the 30 (in each seat) 744 Early Outs.

But...won't the 744 be "the Plane" for the upcoming troop withdrawl (MAC Charters) from Iraq? Perhaps they need to adjust their forecast 744 numbers and they will have some replacements on the next AE, due out soon?

We shall see...

acl65pilot 10-31-2011 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1077781)
Bar I saw that also, I'm not sure about the implications of using the cash reserves to reduce adjusted debt, IOW is this an accounting adjustment, or is this a way of massaging then numbers for some type of upcoming investment opportunity?

Cheers
George

Accounting is one of the true art forms.......

IMHO, DAL is just waiting to pounce and when they do it will surprise almost everyone.

acl65pilot 10-31-2011 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1077804)
And they never did post a bid to replace the 30 (in each seat) 744 Early Outs.

But...won't the 744 be "the Plane" for the upcoming troop withdrawl (MAC Charters) from Iraq? Perhaps they need to adjust their forecast 744 numbers and they will have some replacements on the next AE, due out soon?

We shall see...

Yep, this is the PBS min staffing formula, look for head count on the ae. Should be out within the next week or so.

1234 10-31-2011 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by fishguy79 (Post 1077794)
There is a new 22d2 posted for May 12. I know this is not head count but it is a good indicator of what block hours are doing compared to the year before. For May 2011 total pilots required was 10297 and for May 2012 it is 9955. Most of the categories are the similar to the prior year. The biggest change was the DTW 744. CA went fm 224 to 180 and the FO's went from 251 to 190. This bid coming up could be interesting.


Also, it this latest one shows an increase of required pilots by 127 from the Nov 2011 22d2. If you compare the Nov 2011 document vs this current one, there is an increase in the DTW 744 numbers. I am not sure if comparing the Nov to May one is a good indicator however, as I don't know if they would adjust the Nov one for the standard pull down in flying during the fall/winter.

fishguy79 10-31-2011 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1077806)
Yep, this is the PBS min staffing formula, look for head count on the ae. Should be out within the next week or so.


Isn't the PBS min Staffing based on block hours?

acl65pilot 10-31-2011 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by fishguy79 (Post 1077811)
Isn't the PBS min Staffing based on block hours?

Yep, but we derive staffing from block hrs. Of course the block hr numbers are not disclosed publicly.

fishguy79 10-31-2011 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1077815)
Yep, but we derive staffing from block hrs. Of course the block hr numbers are not disclosed publicly.

Ok, are you trying to confuse me or is it just working out that way. You agree that the PBS min staffing is based on block hours, then state we derive staffing from block hours????? Not trying to be a richard cranium, just trying to understand what you mean:D


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