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Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1080359)

+1... Just because a SWA guy shows up here and posts some acccurate info of the sort a hundred guys have asked for recently about SWA specifics, doesn't mean he is personally responsible to be the Defender Of SWA History and take any old rude beating that gets thrown out. Really T, usually I enjoy your posts, you must not have had your coffee yet...

SWAPA is nobody's friend except SWAPA's. But fine, read about how much money they make and all that crapola while watching from afar while they absolutely screw another group with a big fat smile on their faces.

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Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1080371)

I think it is the same revenue and yes it has a bad connotation because the traveling public wants something for nothing. So we give them something for next to nothing and if the want extra they will just pay for it. I am sure all airlines would love to get rid of the nickel and dime and just charge what it costs. I agree though it sounds like we are getting something extra but I feel reality is different. SWA does not charge for bags for now (airtran still does and I bet SWA will bite the bullet and assume that little tid bit) but SWA also is not any cheaper than many airlines. Multiple stops, higher fares that one cant compare on the open market without a lot of work. SWA just appears to be cheaper and on the higher road of not charging for bags. But they are not stupid they make money for a reason, by forcing the traveler through their well thought out revenue system. As they get away from their system (al la ATL and angry airtran employees) they may just have to start charging for bags too.

They aren't stupid, but SWA didn't make much money in the latest quarter. They made such a big deal about not taking money for bags, and now they probably wish they had kept their mouths shut. People will pay for it, and they are fees, not taxable because they are in addition to the ticket, which is heavily taxed. As far as SWA goes in the future, I'm sure they will try to continue their same strategies, but they have grandiose plans of Hawaii flying, and maybe onward to something farther, which may take them away from their comfort zone. They also are trying to figure out if they want those 717s, which has gone against their single fleet strategy. Add to that the employee group is getting older (longevity), and more expensive. It won't always be easy for them, and they don't have the hedging advantage they used to OWN, and control the market. It's gone.

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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1080399)

I'm confused...again

Yeah I am too, but I'm into Mayan calendars and such so it's easy to be confused. Looking at a period from March 2012-April 2013 in Travelnet, it shows a code share flight doing SEA-CDG.

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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1080364)

They are using those on the MAN route which was always thinner, but also on a newer Glasgow route. Put in VIR72 in the upper left box on Flightaware.com and see the latest flight there. There is still at least one Virgin 744 going to LGW per day from MCO, but they have also moved some of them to the Caribbean flying for the Winter.

Ah, OK.. thanks. I thought maybe it could be a mid-week kind of thing, but I thought it very interesting that I cannot remember ever seeing anything other than Virgin whales here. Could have been time of day too.. anyway, thanks for the info.

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1080374)

Anybody think the NBA lockout will effect our 4th qtr profits since the NBA is currently in a lock out?

Maybe a little bit, but probably not enough to matter. Have they cancelled their season yet? They gotta settle this thing, or Kris Humphries may be hanging at a soup line somewhere. (I cannot believe that I even know THAT much about pop culture)

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Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1080371)

I guess they can still afford that non-taxable revenue to be left on the table.. Besides, if you get a AMEX card, bags are free on DAL too.

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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1080411)

That's next year, in about 5 months.

wow. I. am. an. idiot.

It still doesn't play into the whole winter pull down thing considering it's starting in the spring.

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1080374)

Anybody think the NBA lockout will effect our 4th qtr profits since the NBA is currently in a lock out?

I may be wrong, but I believe we have a contract to fly the NBA teams wether we actually fly the trips or not. It is part of the expense for the lockout. It may be a good deal for Delta to get paid for trips we don't actually fly. Anybody else know more?

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1080426)

wow. I. am. an. idiot.

It still doesn't play into the whole winter pull down thing considering it's starting in the spring.

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Ok, now I'm less confused...

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Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 1080428)

I would figure there is some sort of a minimum retainer that the NBA pays for DL to keep the aircraft outfitted and available. They are canceling games about 3 to 4 weeks out so the flights may very well be scheduled as to ensure availability.