I'm surprised nobody on here has commented on the line from this week's 'right from Richard' message on Deltanet. He stated that he's committed to giving "industry standard" wages for all front line employees in 2012.

That doesn't give me any warm feelings on a significantly improved contract.

I don't think that applies to pilots. He's speaking of a raise all frontline employees will receive in July, & that doesn't include pilots.

12-20-2011 | 04:54 PM

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newKnow

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Originally Posted by tsquare

FAIL. UT is in fact... in Knoxville.

Is that sort of like how U.S.C. is in Columbia, South Carolina?

12-20-2011 | 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by johnso29

I don't think that applies to pilots. He's speaking of a raise all frontline employees will receive in July, & that doesn't include pilots.

Anyone know how far below the frontline employees and management are below their 2004 (pre-paycut) pay? We are 32% below ours (not counting inflation).

I seriously doubt any of the other employees are anywhere near 32% below where they were in 2004... probably not even more than a single digit percentage below. And I'm guessing management is actually quite a bit ABOVE their 2004 compensation.

Anybody have the stats on this?

12-20-2011 | 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by johnso29

I guess no one cares that the new rest rules are to be announced tomorrow.

Bloomberg

Hopefully some positive news to end the year with?..

12-20-2011 | 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by johnso29

I don't think that applies to pilots.

and you think that because.....?
do you know something the rest of us don't? Did you talk to RA and ask him about it?

why would you feel the need to say that if you don't know for sure what he was talking about?

12-20-2011 | 05:15 PM

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And on another note (totally off the subject), I thought this was pretty funny:

12-20-2011 | 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by exeagle

Hopefully some positive news to end the year with?..

Positive if you want to do 10 hour days and have duty time limitations significantly cut into your productivity. I see more days at work for the same amount of credit.

At least when we are at work 20 days out of the month to get 72 hours of credit we will get 9 hours in the hotel and be able to fly up to 10 hours each duty period. Didn't all this start as a project to reduce fatigue??

12-20-2011 | 05:36 PM

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Most are in the 5 to 10 percent range however they kept their earned retirement. As a example the flight attendants made 49 and change before the two rounds of cuts they took. They are now back up to 46 and change after 3 pay raises. The 4th raise is scheduled for this July. That leaves the down about 7 percent.
The company has however maintained since the left Chapter 11 that wages would be market based and they have only pledged to keep Delta employees paid in the median of wages for airlines similar to Delta. This has lead to different groups getting different raises as they are compared to their peers at other airlines.