That is a very interesting theory. But again, if Tim O has any intestinal fortitude, he pulls LM aside and tells him how it's gonna go down. Vote for me.. I'll do it. I guess we are the second biggest payer of dues to the association, and the tail should not be wagging the dog. Of course, this is where those highly compensated lawyers get involved and tell us that we better not do that because it will cost thousands of dollars, and cost millions of lives... So it is a quagmire no doubt. When these kinds of issues come to the fore, it really reinforces the thought that an independent is the way to go, and pay for the services we need.. when we need them. Of course that will never happen, so this garbage will continue forever....

And.. I am over the threats about the NC. I have been thru this rodeo twice now and I'm not falling for that. If they bring us an inferior TA, and we vote it down.. I don't care what they do.. go back in for another round.. quit.. jump off a bridge.. I really don't care, but I will tell you this.. and this is JMHO.. that if they DO bring us a crap contract, the doughnuts will see a surge that will water their eyes... because at that point, we are pretty much going to be nailed ot the wall by management, and since there are no pay raises after 2012, they get cheap labor.. no incentive to get a deal... you know how that will play out. I know the negotiators.. well 2 of them anyway, and I think they are good guys. I thin they will work hard for us. It all depends on the national agenda and if they keep their grubby paws off of the product.

There.. I feel better.

 

You are right TSquare, if DALPA brings us a weak TA and tries to manage our expectations, they are GONE. They will lose $35 million per year in dues, and other airline groups like UAL may take notice too. It would be catastrophic for them. No pressure.

 

I certainly hope so, and not just a surge, but an actual "changing of the guard."

Scoop

 

Off topic but does anyone know how I can get to that "memo" (Or whatever it was) that explains how to book ones spouse on a flight over Xmas? I remember it talking about how for those crewmembers working over the holidays, our spouse gets to use an S2B provided by the company to travel to where we are laying over. I cant find it anywhere. Thanks for any info!

 

Go to Deltanet, scroll down to the Flight Ops News at the bottom center of the screen, and read the Trim Tab from December 16th. Detailed steps are in there.

 

Perfect! Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for your help J29.

 

Everyone talks about how we will leave ALPA if our TA is not good. Also mention that United will take notice and might pull out. Why can't the reverse be true as well. We at Delta should be watching how ALPA comes through with the UNCAL merger. If there is a major slip up there we might as well kiss our 2012 goodbye.

 

Little help. Having a discussion about RUO with no PWA to reference. How far down do they have to go to use a assign a reserve a trip that will carry over into a golden day?

Thanks.

 

Good point.

 

N. Open Time Award/Assignment Sequence for Rotations Reporting 12 or More Hours After
31 Initial Attempt to Contact Pilot (Long Notice Ladder)
32
33 1. Pilots subject to recovery flying under Section 23 K. 1.
34 Note: A pilot whose original rotation was not a MED rotation will not be assigned
35 recovery flying to a MED less than 24 hours prior to report time of the MED
36 rotation without his consent.28
37 2. Regular pilots who have submitted white slips (in category, in seniority order)
38 Note: White slips for same-day open time will be awarded by proffer.
39 Exception: A local council officer who drops a rotation to conduct a monthly council
40 meeting will be given first priority to white slip open time during that bid period in order
41 to recover such dropped rotations. (see Section 24 J. 8.)
42 3. Pilots subject to recovery flying under Section 23 G. 5. a. 1) Note, (OE recovery)
43 Note: A pilot whose original rotation was not a MED rotation will not be assigned
44 recovery flying to a MED less than 24 hours prior to report time of the MED
45 rotation without his consent.
1 4. Long call reserve pilots (in category, within RUO)
2 5. Short call reserve pilots (in category, within RUO)
3 6. Reserve pilots who are on an X-day or long call reserve pilots for whom the award would
4 interrupt their X-day(s) and who have submitted a yellow slip (in category, within RUO)
5 7. Out-of-base regular pilots who have submitted white slips (in seniority order)
6 Note: White slips for same-day open time will be awarded by proffer.
7 8. Out-of-base long call reserve pilots (by base, within RUO)
8 9. Out-of-base short call reserve pilots (by base, within RUO)
9 10. Long call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would extend into their regular line
10 day(s)-off (in category, within least intrusion groupings, by RAW value)
11 11. Short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would extend into their regular line
12 day(s)-off (in category, within least intrusion groupings, by RAW value)
13 12. Out-of-base long call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would extend into their
14 regular line day(s)-off (by base, within least intrusion groupings, by RAW value)
15 13. Out-of-base short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would extend into their
16 regular line day(s)-off (by base, within least intrusion groupings, by RAW value)
17 14. Long call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would create a conflict with their
18 regular line rotation(s) (in category, within least disruption groupings, by RAW value)
19 15. Short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would create a conflict with their
20 regular line rotation(s) (in category, within least disruption groupings, by RAW value)
21 16. Out-of-base long call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would create a conflict with
22 their regular line rotation(s) (within least disruption groupings, by RAW value)
23 17. Out-of-base short call reserve pilots for whom the assignment would create a conflict
24 with their regular line rotation(s) (within least disruption groupings, by RAW value)
25 18. Pilots who have submitted GSs (in category, in seniority order)
26 19. Instructors who have submitted GSs without conflict under Section 11 C. 1. c. 2) (in
27 seniority order)
28 Note: Instructors who can hold First Officer, but cannot hold Captain, on the aircraft
29 model on which they instruct, will be afforded priority over instructors who can hold
30 Captain on such aircraft model, for the purpose of GS awards for flying as First Officer.
31 20. Out-of-base pilots who have submitted GSs (in seniority order)
32 21. Pilots who are currently flying and would be re-routed.
33 22. Long call reserve pilots whose X-day(s) would be interrupted (in category, in inverse
34 seniority order)
35 23. Short call reserve pilots whose X-day(s) would be interrupted (in category, in inverse
36 seniority order)
37 24. Reserve pilots on X-day(s) who can be assigned without conflict (in category, in inverse
38 seniority order)
39 25. Regular pilots who can be assigned without conflict (in category, in inverse seniority
40 order)
41 26. Reserve pilots on X-day(s) who can be assigned with conflict (in category, in inverse
42 seniority order)
43 27. Regular pilots who have submitted GSWCs (in category, in seniority order)
44 28. Regular pilots who can be assigned with conflict (in category, in inverse seniority order)