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12-20-2011 | 05:43 PM

#83971

DAL 88 Driver

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From: Retired (mandatory age 65)

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Most are in the 5 to 10 percent range however they kept their earned retirement. As a example the flight attendants made 49 and change before the two rounds of cuts they took. They are now back up to 46 and change after 3 pay raises. The 4th raise is scheduled for this July. That leaves the down about 7 percent.

Thanks. That is consistent with what I've heard elsewhere.

12-20-2011 | 05:49 PM

#83972

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From: 127.0.0.1

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Originally Posted by newKnow

Is that sort of like how U.S.C. is in Columbia, South Carolina?

It is: USC founded in 1801 vs Southern Cal in 1880

In 1980, Southern Cal won 23-13 and in 1983 THE USC won 38-14.

12-20-2011 | 05:59 PM

#83973

johnso29

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From: B757/767

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Originally Posted by OccupyRestSeat

and you think that because.....?
do you know something the rest of us don't? Did you talk to RA and ask him about it?

why would you feel the need to say that if you don't know for sure what he was talking about?

How about you answer your own question by quoting my entire post?

12-20-2011 | 06:30 PM

#83974

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Get your quotes right. I said the NMB does not get involved until the end of the normal negotiations process. What do you not get about that?

Carl

and you'd still be wrong........................

12-20-2011 | 06:33 PM

#83975

1234

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From: 717

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

It does not show up on your schedule but it logged by the computer. Checked is different than "viewed." Persnickety lawyers.

So tell me the difference then as it relates to our contractual requirement to check our schedule. Are you saying that calling in via the VRU does meet the requirement for checking our schedules?

12-20-2011 | 06:40 PM

#83976

acl65pilot

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From: A-320A

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Originally Posted by 1234

So tell me the difference then as it relates to our contractual requirement to check our schedule. Are you saying that calling in via the VRU does meet the requirement for checking our schedules?

No that is spelled out. Viewed is different than checking, but viewing is considered checking.

Checking the VRU fulfills the contractual requirement as does viewing your schedule.

The whole point they are schematically different. The phrase on the DBMS Schedule screen states, "Pilot Last Viewed," not "Pilot Last Checked." The DBMS interface only shows views, where as the DBMS computer records all instances where a pilot checks his schedule via the approved methods; VRU, or one of the DBMS interfaces.

The DBMS screen is legally correct in only showing times that you view, not check. Told you the lawyers got involved.

I know who gives two hoots, but I figured since it was asked, I would spell it out.

12-20-2011 | 06:44 PM

#83977

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

The NMB is not involved from the start, so you don't have to worry about losing them from the start. They're only involved at the end of the normal process when one or more parties seek the NMB.

Carl

or was it this????

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Regardless, the NMB is not involved in openers or negotiations until their latter stages.

Carl

Regardless = I can't admit I was wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by clancy

The NMB will be involved. From the Delta PWA, Section 28.A.:

In the absence of an agreement by March 31, 2013, the parties agree to jointly petition the National Mediation Board for mediation services.

So is 3 months after the "amendable" date of our PWA the "end" of the normal section 6 process?? I guess only ACL can be wrong huh?

12-20-2011 | 06:51 PM

#83978

tsquare

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From: 767er Captain

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Originally Posted by newKnow

Is that sort of like how U.S.C. is in Columbia, South Carolina?

On the UT forums it is referred to as USCjr. I am sure they would take exception to that though

12-20-2011 | 06:52 PM

#83979

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From: 767er Captain

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Originally Posted by PilotFrog

And almost 100 years older. 1794 vs 1883

Thank you sir!

12-20-2011 | 06:55 PM

#83980

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From: 767er Captain

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Originally Posted by biigD

Feel free to use UTenn if you'd like, but UT is most certainly The University of Texas, which is in Austin.

and your screen name reminds me of a story. At the old Stapleton airport (DEN for you home gamers) A ground controller axed an American flight where he was going. The response was of course "The big D". Controller sez Well shut 'em down big boy, cause you've arrived.

I know.. everybody has prolly heard that, but I thought it appropo because of your screen name

Oh, and The UT.. the one (and only) in Knoxville.. has a Pantone color specifically named for the Big Orange... Tennessee Orange.