Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-04-2012 | 04:14 AM
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Hey, it's a Flight Attendant Rumor, which means it's true! 
All 777 flying will be moved to LAX and MCO.
It's just that nobody in Marketing has dictated the closure to the Mushrooms in the Flight Ops. Dept... yet.
The bid will be out in 4-6 weeks.
Oh, and the 5 year plan changes every 3 weeks.
SSDD
All 777 flying will be moved to LAX and MCO.
It's just that nobody in Marketing has dictated the closure to the Mushrooms in the Flight Ops. Dept... yet.
The bid will be out in 4-6 weeks.
Oh, and the 5 year plan changes every 3 weeks.
SSDD
I can tell ya, I did not hear it from any FA's. but you know, they seem to know more than the average pilot.
I heard this a while back and then a few of the LCA's that I have flown with have stated such. Of course the five year plan changes every two weeks.....
01-04-2012 | 04:20 AM
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From: Light Chop
ACL,
I don't doubt ATL 777 might move out completely, but couldn't the size of ATL 777 and DTW 777 be flipped vs closing ATL 777?
I ask, because what else would do a route like ATL-NRT?
FWIW 777 routes (by my best count, I might be missing some):
ATL-DTW
ATL-LAX
ATL-DXB
ATL-JNB
ATL-NRT
DTW-ICN
DTW-PVG
DTW-PEK
DTW-HKG
NRT-HKG
NRT-SIN
NRT-TPE
NRT-ATL
NRT-MSP
MSP-NRT
LAX-SYD
I don't doubt ATL 777 might move out completely, but couldn't the size of ATL 777 and DTW 777 be flipped vs closing ATL 777?
I ask, because what else would do a route like ATL-NRT?
FWIW 777 routes (by my best count, I might be missing some):
ATL-DTW
ATL-LAX
ATL-DXB
ATL-JNB
ATL-NRT
DTW-ICN
DTW-PVG
DTW-PEK
DTW-HKG
NRT-HKG
NRT-SIN
NRT-TPE
NRT-ATL
NRT-MSP
MSP-NRT
LAX-SYD
Last edited by forgot to bid; 01-04-2012 at 04:31 AM.
01-04-2012 | 04:21 AM
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Kind of wonder if they are giving a gentle nudge towards retirement ... not that it is personal, when the junior guys were asking about leaves to avoid displacement the CPO stated an 12 to 18 month request would likely be accepted.
Furloughing has its own costs, but there is little doubt we are overstaffed right now.
Furloughing has its own costs, but there is little doubt we are overstaffed right now.
01-04-2012 | 04:32 AM
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From: Light Chop
Now lets get rid of trip parking and then re-rack staffing levels.
Trip Parking:
Also if we furlough and 2 years is the minimum amount of time required to furlough then given retirements how long will we really end up being overstaffed. And we also have a lot of training coming with all of these bids, as we realign and move equipment and close bases and so on, are we really overstaffed enough to furlough for 2 years?
Last edited by forgot to bid; 01-04-2012 at 04:59 AM.
01-04-2012 | 04:36 AM
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From: Dismayed
Think I saw that Jan would have the highest YOY schedule cut. Since we staff for the summer, it stands to reason that this month we will have the least amount of open time and the highest number of couch potatoes (RSV bubbas and bubbettes).
01-04-2012 | 04:52 AM
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No we don't, the alternative is to furlough those pilots. Is that what you really want? Be thankful that a foresighted individual realized the best method to prevent furloughs was via a layered approach. Layering in economic penalties to the company has served us very well since we got away from traditional no furlough clauses.
01-04-2012 | 04:54 AM
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From: Corporate Pilot
FP: I think you do have to republish to get the new info over to those that pull the reports. (I'd ask them, or ACL here is pretty good at knowing that system ).
What program runs 12 years? My grad degree was something the panel was unfamiliar with, so they asked, "How long does that take?" Followed by, "How long did it take you?"
What program runs 12 years? My grad degree was something the panel was unfamiliar with, so they asked, "How long does that take?" Followed by, "How long did it take you?"
Thanks Bar.... I'll republish, it can't hurt. It took 12 years to finish my BS. I decided to stop going to college early on to pursue a full time flying job. I told myself that I'd start back 6 months later. WRONG!!! Finishing a degree working full time and with 2 kids screaming in my ear while trying to study was not easy. Glad it's finally done
01-04-2012 | 05:08 AM
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90% of what he posts here never comes to fruition. i remember back in the late nineties talking to an LCA friend who said he was told we would never fly South America. Less than a week later we announced EZE, LIM, and SCL along with GIG and GRU.
01-04-2012 | 05:10 AM
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From: M88 starboard
I think a new concern for the junior/younger folk should be furlough. If Iran keeps farting around with the strait of Hormouse or Israel does something about the Nuke program over there, $200.00/ barrel oil is not out of the question. It seems almost certain some sort of conflict will erupt over there, sometime this year. Think not only about Delta's fuel costs but the world economies and how many people/ business people will continue to fly.
01-04-2012 | 05:20 AM
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I think a new concern for the junior/younger folk should be furlough. If Iran keeps farting around with the strait of Hormouse or Israel does something about the Nuke program over there, $200.00/ barrel oil is not out of the question. It seems almost certain some sort of conflict will erupt over there, sometime this year. Think not only about Delta's fuel costs but the world economies and how many people/ business people will continue to fly.
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