I agree that more time will move to DTW from ATL when the fences come down. I also bet we see the 787-900 about that time too.

Prepare for incoming T. As a former North guy I miss standardization of SOPA/SMAC, but think the South's way of international (TOE) and SAQ is hands down better. NWA did very little international training. IE: Check out on the whale I had OE to Asia but none to Europe because the whale did not go there at that time. I get a charter there and the capt. is a known f'up and had I not studied up our international section, picked the brains of other capts that had flown the DC10, and had a S/O that had flown the C5 over there, we would have had to fill out at least a half dozen ASR's. Northwest just assumed that everyone or at least someone on the crew had been to these different theaters.

Do you know the size of the UPS seniority list? I would say 300 is quite significant. Just my observation.

You beat me to it. Once in ATL I predict that DALPA will want a higher payrate for the whale vs. the 777.

I heard that Delta wants to pick up ORD to FCO from Alitalia and couple more cities after ORD CDG ends this spring, they want to use the vacant BJ gate, but the city of Chicago wants a "low cost" carrier in that gate.

Don't worry, porpilot. The furlough talk usually pops up here on APC every 6-8 weeks or so, for no real reason.

Normally, someone predicts either:

1.) The price of oil shooting up,
2.) A stock market crash, or
3.) Both, as the reason for our impending cuts.

The thing that should give you comfort is that no pilot in the history of aviation has ever accurately predicted:

1.) What will happen with the stock market
2.) The future price of anything, or
3.) His or her company's intention to furlough.

I say you should just ignore all the talk of doom and gloom and assume that some are a little grumpy because their field goal kicker missed a kick, their presidential candidate underperformed in Iowa, or both, and carry on. :D

It would take somewhere between 1.5 and 2 billion for a complete restoration contract.

They furloughed just barely over 100 out of a 2,700 pilot seniority list.

Yep. And your point is?

My mom called and laughed at me because the low is in the 20's here in Atl and its in the 70s in So Cal. High of 83 today in Riverside CA.