Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-11-2012 | 10:32 PM
Da Hudge
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If this gets me banned for questioning, so be it.
But, I think this speaks to Bars point, acl. If you guys are going to direct the flow of conversation for this thread, then you are taking away what has made it such a great place for so long.
I don't see it as a right to post underboob issue either, because Bar didn't post any.
As pilots, we just don't like being surprised. That's all. We actually like rules. If there is an insubordination rule or Anit-Sedition clause, let us know.
I admit, you have every right to do it -- The First Amendment doesn't live here in APC world. It's you world and you can make it as you see fit. But, with it being your right and all, the only question is the direction you guys/gals want to take this place.
I think what IT is is that sometimes there is absolutely nothing going on at Delta, but sometimes Delta people come on this thread to talk about what's going on with them.
How much you let us discuss, is up to you.
But, I think this speaks to Bars point, acl. If you guys are going to direct the flow of conversation for this thread, then you are taking away what has made it such a great place for so long.
I don't see it as a right to post underboob issue either, because Bar didn't post any.
As pilots, we just don't like being surprised. That's all. We actually like rules. If there is an insubordination rule or Anit-Sedition clause, let us know.
I admit, you have every right to do it -- The First Amendment doesn't live here in APC world. It's you world and you can make it as you see fit. But, with it being your right and all, the only question is the direction you guys/gals want to take this place.
I think what IT is is that sometimes there is absolutely nothing going on at Delta, but sometimes Delta people come on this thread to talk about what's going on with them.
How much you let us discuss, is up to you.
FWIW, newK... those are nearly exactly the points that I brought in the mod section as well as via PM to CleeIB. (Clee is the business oversight of this forum.. not a pilot, doesn't care about pilot stuff, and really just cares about keeping the pitchforks and torches down at whatever cost.)
The general idea is- if a mod does something, respect it and don't get all butthurt and post on the thread about it. That fixes nothing and the non-DL mods are suspicious of this thread anyways. If you believe it was out of line, PM the mod. If that doesn't fix it, shoot me, ACL, or johnso (him last- he's dealing with a new wee one) a PM and we can start a pow wow on it. Finally and as a last resort, HSLD is truly the spirit of this forum and a top notch guy. He's very good about responding and really cares about this place.
That all being said: Bar's logic is sound I believe... however, if you're really that upset about something someone said on here, remember... IT'S AN INTERNET WEB BOARD. It's not life or death. However however, I'll be danged if I let something like this keep ftb from posting pure brilliance in photoshop.
Back to working on my train set.... choo choo!! (I'm glad I'm married because I sure couldn't get a girlfriend)
01-11-2012 | 10:35 PM
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01-11-2012 | 10:41 PM
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My money is on a place Delta doesn't mention much...like the crazy uncle you keep in the basement.
Cheers
George
01-11-2012 | 10:51 PM
Da Hudge
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That being said, my last trip was 3 cities (TUL, ROC, and OKC) that I haven't seen a mainline plane in for years.
01-11-2012 | 11:03 PM
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Just to clarify ... the issue is not an open post. The issue is PM's from no where threatening to ban someone from this board based on false allegation from a Super Admin.
If it was a random post, I'd not be angry. But Super Admins inserting themselves in the course of a thread WHICH WAS ENTIRELY WITHIN THE RULES AND GUIDELINES OF THE SITE is inappropriate and shows a lack of appreciation for those who provide the content for this site.
It is an internet web board with real value to Internet Brands.
If I walked up and slapped a Delta customer for no reason I would be fired in short order. There is a certain respect which must be maintained towards your customers, even if they are complaining.
Clee would not respond to PM's after he initiated the issue, so it boiled over on him.
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01-12-2012 | 12:51 AM
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Don't everyone get'cher panti...ooops, I mean a PG-13 friendly "underthings", in a twist.
SWA has zero desire to start up and/or maintain a separate MX program for a very small sub-part of their fleet, especially one with oddball engines. Someone else in ATL has a pretty large MRO operation and engine overhaul shop.
The way it was explained to me was that rather than do it themselves, they'd rather outsource the MRO/engine work to someone else.
SWA will not part with those airplanes until the leases are up. You can bank on that. Their "new" airplane orders don't kick in until those leases are up, and they cannot maintain their current domestic route structure without them. Tranny's 737s are committed to the current international and transcon schedule.
So, I hate to be the designated douc...er, um, cheeky fellow, but I don't want to see all y'all disappointed when something that was never going to happen, never happens.
Nu
Last edited by NuGuy; 01-12-2012 at 12:53 AM. Reason: changed singular y'all to plural all y'all
01-12-2012 | 12:58 AM
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80,
Just to clarify ... the issue is not an open post. The issue is PM's from no where threatening to ban someone from this board based on false allegation from a Super Admin.
If it was a random post, I'd not be angry. But Super Admins inserting themselves in the course of a thread WHICH WAS ENTIRELY WITHIN THE RULES AND GUIDELINES OF THE SITE is inappropriate and shows a lack of appreciation for those who provide the content for this site.
It is an internet web board with real value to Internet Brands.
If I walked up and slapped a Delta customer for no reason I would be fired in short order. There is a certain respect which must be maintained towards your customers, even if they are complaining.
Clee would not respond to PM's after he initiated the issue, so it boiled over on him.
Just to clarify ... the issue is not an open post. The issue is PM's from no where threatening to ban someone from this board based on false allegation from a Super Admin.
If it was a random post, I'd not be angry. But Super Admins inserting themselves in the course of a thread WHICH WAS ENTIRELY WITHIN THE RULES AND GUIDELINES OF THE SITE is inappropriate and shows a lack of appreciation for those who provide the content for this site.
It is an internet web board with real value to Internet Brands.
If I walked up and slapped a Delta customer for no reason I would be fired in short order. There is a certain respect which must be maintained towards your customers, even if they are complaining.
Clee would not respond to PM's after he initiated the issue, so it boiled over on him.
You're fighting with guy over something on the intrawebs. It's like...it's like... well, simile fails me...it's like arguing with someone on the intrawebs.
Nu
01-12-2012 | 03:35 AM
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I was alowed to bid vacation, but was not awarded any because I am on mil leave in Afghanistan. Am I going to get screwed with whatever is left when I get back or how will that work?
01-12-2012 | 04:29 AM
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80,
Just to clarify ... the issue is not an open post. The issue is PM's from no where threatening to ban someone from this board based on false allegation from a Super Admin.
If it was a random post, I'd not be angry. But Super Admins inserting themselves in the course of a thread WHICH WAS ENTIRELY WITHIN THE RULES AND GUIDELINES OF THE SITE is inappropriate and shows a lack of appreciation for those who provide the content for this site.
It is an internet web board with real value to Internet Brands.
If I walked up and slapped a Delta customer for no reason I would be fired in short order. There is a certain respect which must be maintained towards your customers, even if they are complaining.
Clee would not respond to PM's after he initiated the issue, so it boiled over on him.
Just to clarify ... the issue is not an open post. The issue is PM's from no where threatening to ban someone from this board based on false allegation from a Super Admin.
If it was a random post, I'd not be angry. But Super Admins inserting themselves in the course of a thread WHICH WAS ENTIRELY WITHIN THE RULES AND GUIDELINES OF THE SITE is inappropriate and shows a lack of appreciation for those who provide the content for this site.
It is an internet web board with real value to Internet Brands.
If I walked up and slapped a Delta customer for no reason I would be fired in short order. There is a certain respect which must be maintained towards your customers, even if they are complaining.
Clee would not respond to PM's after he initiated the issue, so it boiled over on him.
Bar,
Correct and correct. Pilots are irked about soft porn not being able to be posted. Well guys, keep it PG-13 and things will calm down. You are irked at what Clee did. PM him. 80 will agree that PM's have a history of being private for a reason. It is not against the TOS to post em, but it is against the precedence of this site.
Fact, we want this thread to continue and in the same spirit especially now. I could care less about the money involved. To me it is about a form of communication for the next contract talks. Lets keep the eye on the ball and realize that Clee is IB's site admin. He should respond to you, and I am sure he will. Unlike us, he does not live on here.
01-12-2012 | 04:35 AM
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Very good post.
ACL is trying to make this into a "soft porn" issue when Bucking Bar and other did not make those posts. He's trying to deflect criticism away from his web board superiors (and probably trying to fix things behind the scenes).
THE ISSUE is one of disrespect and poor customer service initiated by Internet Brands' employees towards the people who built this board up from nothing.
THE ISSUE is a lack of understanding or appreciation for the demographic that the L&G thread brings to APC and their parent corporation, Internet Brands. Those who bought this site don't know what they have, who their customers are, or how to leverage its' earning potential. They also fail to understand there is already a vetted alternative board over at ALPA's web site, where a coordinated effort at replacing APC can be launched informally, as well as several web boards already up and running from friends who would appreciate our business.
Super Admin Clee is encouraged to find a new opportunity to express his creativity in an environment receptive to his particular skill set.
ACL is trying to make this into a "soft porn" issue when Bucking Bar and other did not make those posts. He's trying to deflect criticism away from his web board superiors (and probably trying to fix things behind the scenes).
THE ISSUE is one of disrespect and poor customer service initiated by Internet Brands' employees towards the people who built this board up from nothing.
THE ISSUE is a lack of understanding or appreciation for the demographic that the L&G thread brings to APC and their parent corporation, Internet Brands. Those who bought this site don't know what they have, who their customers are, or how to leverage its' earning potential. They also fail to understand there is already a vetted alternative board over at ALPA's web site, where a coordinated effort at replacing APC can be launched informally, as well as several web boards already up and running from friends who would appreciate our business.
Super Admin Clee is encouraged to find a new opportunity to express his creativity in an environment receptive to his particular skill set.
What prompted Clee to PM Bar? Was it a post that he deemed to be disrespectful to the site , or the new Mod? Clee stepped in to tell a few guys to quit razzing the new mod, as well as a few other items, and that is, well his prerogative. Maybe he saw what was posted as disrespectful.
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