Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-19-2009, 10:48 PM
#8781
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Well, If I get "streeted" and took a job at Starbuck's at least the free coffee would be worth a couple thousand a year I wouldn't need to spend!?... Wait!?... The 25% discount for employees at the .99 cent store doesn't look too bad either - Free coffee or .75cent frozen hot dogs? Damn I can't decide!?...
06-19-2009, 10:51 PM
#8782
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Try Republic, Skywest(maybe). Besides, with most major's in financial trouble, regionals with deep pockets are actually paying to play. Ask Airwisconsin, Republic...the list goes on.
How screw up is that, eh?
How screw up is that, eh?
06-19-2009, 11:00 PM
#8783
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Originally Posted by BalloonChaser
Well, If I get "streeted" and took a job at Starbuck's at least the free coffee would be worth a couple thousand a year I wouldn't need to spend!?... Wait!?... The 25% discount for employees at the .99 cent store doesn't look too bad either - Free coffee or .75cent frozen hot dogs? Damn I can't decide!?...
06-19-2009, 11:15 PM
#8784
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I hear ya. I think it would be stay at home with the kiddo's, let the sugar Momma keep plugging away and pick up a corporate trip or so/month with my old gig to stay current. Not sure I'd commute for the F/O deal at CPZ? But, everyone's got a different situation and I empathize with those who would find themselves in a world of hurt if they got put out in the "real" world and I'm happy for those that have a "back-up." As a "Plan for the worst, hope for the best" sort of person, let's just hope the economy turns around sooner rather than later and the widget proceeds to take over the aviation world as we had planned from the start!?...
06-20-2009, 02:56 AM
#8785
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Hey Dave, how's domestic treating you? Missing those Kiev layovers yet? (We all will be, starting this fall...)
06-20-2009, 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Ralphie
2 points:
- if there's a furlough, I doubt it would be small groups at a time, but rather one or two large ones. That way, the company doesn't have to pay for excess training at Compass on the way down, only during recall. ie, they drop 1000, in reality only have to train the number from that group that takes a Compass position. If they could hold off on recalls until they could bring them all back quickly, that would mitigate the training costs on the way back.
- how many would sit right seat there? very few, only the guys/gals who had absolutely nothing else to do or needed the jumpseating rights/medical, which is important, but what I envision is about 170 formal DAL captains and mostly a bunch of ****ed off displaced Compass captains sitting right seat. What a great time that would be.
Of course there's a great rumor flying around now about the company "selling" Compass in some whacked out scheme to eradicate the flowback agreement.
Any July/August AE rumors floating around out there? Most curious about where # of positions will increase and decrease.
- if there's a furlough, I doubt it would be small groups at a time, but rather one or two large ones. That way, the company doesn't have to pay for excess training at Compass on the way down, only during recall. ie, they drop 1000, in reality only have to train the number from that group that takes a Compass position. If they could hold off on recalls until they could bring them all back quickly, that would mitigate the training costs on the way back.
- how many would sit right seat there? very few, only the guys/gals who had absolutely nothing else to do or needed the jumpseating rights/medical, which is important, but what I envision is about 170 formal DAL captains and mostly a bunch of ****ed off displaced Compass captains sitting right seat. What a great time that would be.
Of course there's a great rumor flying around now about the company "selling" Compass in some whacked out scheme to eradicate the flowback agreement.
Any July/August AE rumors floating around out there? Most curious about where # of positions will increase and decrease.
Give away more scope and 76 seat flying, maybe.
In that case you may see a J4J deal with the sale of compass. I sure hope not, but you never know.
Best case would be Compass here, restrictions on the remaining 76 seat flying and a nice order of larger E jets. It makes sense for the company, and would be great furlough mitigation.
Once can always wish
06-20-2009, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Give away more scope and 76 seat flying, maybe.
In that case you may see a J4J deal with the sale of compass. I sure hope not, but you never know.
Best case would be Compass here, restrictions on the remaining 76 seat flying and a nice order of larger E jets. It makes sense for the company, and would be great furlough mitigation.
Once can always wish
If DAL furloughs wouldn't the contract require all 76 seaters to be reduced to 70 seats?
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06-20-2009, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Dash8widget
I did some digging a while back and managed to find the flow back agreement (don't ask me where I found it - I don't remember). What I remember from reading it was - The flow back is voluntary for displaced Delta pilots - taking it (or not) does not affect your recall rights - if you take the flow back and then quit Compass, your recall rights are not affected - if you get fired from Compass, then goodbye Delta job! Also, I seem to remember that if you have completed probation at Delta then you will not be on probation at Compass
06-20-2009, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
ACL or anyone,
If DAL furloughs wouldn't the contract require all 76 seaters to be reduced to 70 seats?
Scoop
If DAL furloughs wouldn't the contract require all 76 seaters to be reduced to 70 seats?
Scoop
The post 01 hires only remove the six seat in the aircraft that were part of the 76 seat scope settlement. Furlough an 01 hire and this is where you see the 6 seats being removed from the aircraft that the limit going down to 55 jets.
In effect 900 people are not covered under the tighter restrictions. At SOC that number is reduced to the most junior of pilots. I believe that number is 476 pilots that do not have a 2001 hire slotted below them.
So after SOC it they could furlough 476 pilot and only have to block first then take out 153 seats.
Reference Contract Awareness 09-01 (CA 09-01) PDF file is in the DALPA library. I have pasted the sections on here so many times that you can just go look it up. The union did a good job explaining the settlement.
06-20-2009, 05:21 AM
#8790
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Originally Posted by Dash8widget
if you get fired from Compass, then goodbye Delta job!
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