Interesting, thanks.

 

Let's see, DCI is down in ASM's and departures - from having given away the store. For perspective what were those numbers 10 years ago?

 

What nextgen poweplants, and on what size aircraft?

 

This is your chance to help one of our International Flight Attendants out:

(on the flipside, let's hope no SWA pilots answer the ad with malicious intent)

 

Yes, I did. And I moved to a base.

You don't want to move, for whatever reason, that's just fine. Just don't expect to improve your quality of life at my expense.

If I get displaced again and decide not to move there, I won't expect the guys who live in my new base to take a kick in the junk just to accommodate me.

Your sense of self-pity and entitlement is pathetic.

 

Bullsh!t. It costs guys who live in base plenty.

 

Really? How about instead of an unsupported emotional response, you provide an example of just what it costs them?

 

I think we found one of the guys that wrote in the rotation survey in all caps.

 

I don't know if I could say it that eloquently, or with the attitude, but I agree with Bacon on this point. If you want the holy grail of rotation building to be the creation of commuteable trips, by definition, you're creating trips that aren't optimal in other ways, for those who could start fairly early and end fairly late. I can show up at 7:30 AM every time, and wrap up at 10:00 PM, every time, but I want to drive as infrequently as I can. I'd rather have a very high time trip that's not commuteable, than a lower-time trip that returns in the middle of peak traffic, and causes me to drive more often.

You could say that in a base with a variety of trips, there is a trip that fits everyone's needs. Which brings me to another point: the process of "improving" rotations cannot be a winner-takes-all proposition. It must be a proportional proposition.

If you actually were to manage to make all rotations just like 65% of the pilots want them, you'd still hose 35%. The best outcome would be to have 65% of rotations just like the 65% want them, and 35% just like the 35% want them.

 

Yes, but trips with late reports or early releases aren't built for just commuters. They also aren't preferred by only commuters. I think it's unfair for people to assume that trips are tailored for just commuters. I also think one can't assume they without commuters we'd magically have a higher amount of 'better' trips. With 10,000+ pilots, you simply can't find a trip mix that will satisfy everyone.