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Old 03-24-2012, 08:45 PM
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What exactly would this accomplish and how would it help stop large RJ outsourcing? Will management agree to make ASA the exclusive RJ provider? That could be a way to start the negotiations on this, but I don't think they will put the outsourcing crack pipe down long enough to even propose it much less seriously consider it.
Just a thought here.

If we get flow agreements to take all Delta pilots from DCI, that drives up their costs significantly. Gordon Bethune hated the flow from CALEX to CAL for that reason. So we drive the costs up by taking the pilots, they have to hire more pilots to deal with the new FT rules, they can't find them due to the new 1500 hour rule. All this stuff drives up the costs at DCI. Eventually someone with a half brain will see it is stupid to outsource stuff to a place that costs more to do the work. I think that the 70-76 seat outsourcing will eventually get where the 50 seat stuff is now and we won't have to "give" anything to get it back.

Lots of stuff going to happen to DCI in the next 3-5 years that will make it ALOT more expensive to run that operation.
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Wt f at downtown jfk area, cant find bar with food after midnight. Can thisreally be manhattan on
saturday night? Luckily guinness will serve for lunch in a pinch...
Try Connolly's. Great late night menu. Go with the boneless buffalo wings, stacked pretty high. Decent manhattan prices and a block from hotel.
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by flyBanana
MD-80/90 will be modified with ISS Flat panel. Dual GPS, dual FMS. Awaiting fundidng…. Ref. CVG news letter…
I also heard that exact same thing, about 2 years ago. We'll see.
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Wt f at downtown jfk area, cant find bar with food after midnight. Can thisreally be manhattan on
saturday night? Luckily guinness will serve for lunch in a pinch...
There's a great pizza place just east of Grand Central Station. Maybe Lexington and E43, somewhere in that area, 24 hour by the slice and really good.
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy

Just a thought here.

If we get flow agreements to take all Delta pilots from DCI, that drives up their costs significantly. Gordon Bethune hated the flow from CALEX to CAL for that reason. So we drive the costs up by taking the pilots, they have to hire more pilots to deal with the new FT rules, they can't find them due to the new 1500 hour rule. All this stuff drives up the costs at DCI. Eventually someone with a half brain will see it is stupid to outsource stuff to a place that costs more to do the work. I think that the 70-76 seat outsourcing will eventually get where the 50 seat stuff is now and we won't have to "give" anything to get it back.

Lots of stuff going to happen to DCI in the next 3-5 years that will make it ALOT more expensive to run that operation.
Absolutely correct. Airline rumor sniffing 101. Smell a dollar bill. Now go get it boy go get it follow the money!!!
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Wt f at downtown jfk area, cant find bar with food after midnight. Can thisreally be manhattan on
saturday night? Luckily guinness will serve for lunch in a pinch...
What about 2nd or 3rd avenue?

Btw, I think pizza has salt. Salt is banned in NYC from 10pm to 8am. And if food has salt then you can't give it to the homeless. Go mayor!
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Old 03-25-2012, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Just a thought here...

Lots of stuff going to happen to DCI in the next 3-5 years that will make it ALOT more expensive to run that operation.
Thinking, in these parts? You can't do that, RockyBoy. If your thinking involves a trend that might be positive, you'll be told you're naive, and if you're seeing trends that don't help us, you're fear-mongering.
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Old 03-25-2012, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Lots of stuff going to happen to DCI in the next 3-5 years that will make it ALOT more expensive to run that operation.
Assuming we don't give up more scope.

And I'd still like to get these prophecies in writing, just in case.
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Old 03-25-2012, 06:28 AM
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I guess Delta is testing a new product, Basic Economy. It's a slightly cheaper fare that doesn't allow seat selection or any changes to the ticket. (aka: compete with Spirit).

Right now it's only in a few markets from DTW (to Florida) but you know how that can expand.

Delta?s New 'Basic Economy' Fare Could Be A Game-Changer - Business Insider

I guess seats will be either assigned at check-in or at the gate. If it's at the gate, they'll be on the Airport Stby list as HKs.
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Old 03-25-2012, 07:09 AM
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If the 88 FMS is cnx, then the whole re-panel program is on hold. The 88 and 90 FMS databases are maxed out; the cannot hold any more waypoints/data. The re-panel was to help address this, along with the GPS to navigate in the NexGen world.
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