Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-28-2012 | 05:52 PM
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I know at least one of Delta's 747s ended up at Kalitta Air, I flew it over there. I forget what the tail number is now, a little airliners.net research in the pictures would find that.
03-28-2012 | 08:20 PM
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03-28-2012 | 08:42 PM
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How many DAL pilots with apps in at FedEx?
I know of 4 with hire dates ranging from 1999-2010. This latest AE was the last straw which pushed 1 of them. Just curious if others out there are entertaining the thought. Check out the pay scales. Even 2d/3d year FOs are doing quite well. Not sure I'd want to start over though.
I know of 4 with hire dates ranging from 1999-2010. This latest AE was the last straw which pushed 1 of them. Just curious if others out there are entertaining the thought. Check out the pay scales. Even 2d/3d year FOs are doing quite well. Not sure I'd want to start over though.
Well from one who spends a lot of time talking to young qualified pilots who have their eye on the commercial carriers, FX is certainly the big kid on the block in their minds. They see 2 things that the legacies don't offer: dollar billz and 'job security' in the freight business model. The million dollar question is how perishable both are over time when seniority isn't. the other unkown is why FX wasn't the top ticket pre-911. Uneducated guess: most Jr DAL guys will wait until the next contract and then bail if it's bad.
03-28-2012 | 09:37 PM
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Well from one who spends a lot of time talking to young qualified pilots who have their eye on the commercial carriers, FX is certainly the big kid on the block in their minds. They see 2 things that the legacies don't offer: dollar billz and 'job security' in the freight business model. The million dollar question is how perishable both are over time when seniority isn't. the other unkown is why FX wasn't the top ticket pre-911. Uneducated guess: most Jr DAL guys will wait until the next contract and then bail if it's bad.
03-28-2012 | 11:35 PM
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03-29-2012 | 03:12 AM
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I don't know which ones iaflyer was talking about, probably the NW Freighters, but I was talking about the DL 747's from the 1970's, and as I said, it was before my time. I did fly with a MD 11 Capt. who had been an engineer on the DL 747's back in the day.
He said everyone called them the "Non-Rev Specials" because there were ALWAYS plenty of empty seats! Ahhh...those where the days! When I was in new hire training (1985), Hollis Harris told us the DL Break even Load Factor was about 65%, and the average load factor was 69%. What is our average load factor today, about 85%?
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03-29-2012 | 03:20 AM
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Well from one who spends a lot of time talking to young qualified pilots who have their eye on the commercial carriers, FX is certainly the big kid on the block in their minds. They see 2 things that the legacies don't offer: dollar billz and 'job security' in the freight business model. The million dollar question is how perishable both are over time when seniority isn't. the other unkown is why FX wasn't the top ticket pre-911. Uneducated guess: most Jr DAL guys will wait until the next contract and then bail if it's bad.
None of us tool our own advice but it's easy to see how the freight business seems far more stable and profitable. I know, I know, there's no money in freight if we do it. Now if AF does it out of ATL for us that's fine. It's like the E-Jets, they suck if we fly them but they order them like mad for someone else to fly.
Also, it's not lost on people that 17 years at FedEx means you can be an MD11 LCA. What does 17 years buy you at DAL, AMR, UsAiR, the United side of UCAL?
03-29-2012 | 03:56 AM
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03-29-2012 | 04:10 AM
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03-29-2012 | 04:20 AM
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I don't know which ones iaflyer was talking about, probably the NW Freighters, but I was talking about the DL 747's from the 1970's, and as I said, it was before my time. I did fly with a MD 11 Capt. who had been an engineer on the DL 747's back in the day.
He said everyone called them the "Non-Rev Specials" because there were ALWAYS plenty of empty seats! Ahhh...those where the days! When I was in new hire training (1985), Hollis Harris told us the DL Break even Load Factor was about 65%, and the average load factor was 69%. What is our average load factor today, about 85%?
He said everyone called them the "Non-Rev Specials" because there were ALWAYS plenty of empty seats! Ahhh...those where the days! When I was in new hire training (1985), Hollis Harris told us the DL Break even Load Factor was about 65%, and the average load factor was 69%. What is our average load factor today, about 85%?
100% when you're trying to non-rev!
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