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acl65pilot 04-10-2012 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1167218)
Did you come up with trying to downplay what the rest of the "industry" (especially SWA) makes? :(

You are kidding right? :eek:




When I had my issue last year, I was as proactive as a pilot could possibly be. I was grounded until I got approval from the FAA and getting that situation rectified was by far my number one most important priority at the time. I left no stone unturned and did everything that I knew and was told to do ASAP. Dr. Faulkner ended up being by far the better option and got me back to work way faster.
I am glad it worked out. He is first rate.





Not sure what you're trying to say there.
What I am saying is telling someone to call in 12-24 months without setting up a method for proper documentation of the issue is not right. Take diabetes for example. They need a string of months which are recorded in days of blood sugar being within the normal band for them to even process a SI. Go out for even one reading and the clock generally starts over. That is why I see the give us a call in 12-24 as really stupid.

DAL 88 Driver 04-10-2012 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1167267)
You are kidding right? :eek:

Sort of. It was a rhetorical question... not necessarily aimed at you. I was just pointing out that DALPA has intentionally downplayed our disparity in pay with the SWA pilots in an effort to lower expectations.

capncrunch 04-10-2012 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1167272)
Sort of. It was a rhetorical question... not necessarily aimed at you. I was just pointing out that DALPA has intentionally downplayed our disparity in pay with the SWA pilots in an effort to lower expectations.

They have done a good job of it too. Most everyone I talk to doesn't expect much out of them. Kudos to Alpharomeo, slowplay, et al.

tsquare 04-10-2012 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by JobHopper (Post 1167157)
True, the Delta doc is very knowledgeable and has a great working relationship with the FAA. He is also an AME, whereas the AMAS docs are not, on purpose.

The difference? The Delta doctor, as an AME, is obligated to report any grounding codition to the FAA. If you call him to simply discuss something and mention a grounding conditon, that's it. The AMAS group, by purposely not being AMEs, provide doctor/patient privilege. They will not/cannot report anything to the FAA without your permission.

It's your medical; do what you will with it.

While this might be true, I lost my medical for short periods and worked the first time with ALPA aeromed and the second time with Dr Faulkner. The ALPA guys were great.. very helpful, but they get bound up in the FAA bureaucracy. (The fuzz docs sat on my paperwork for almost 2 months) Dr Faulkner cuts right thru all the tape. (I had my medical back in about 48 hours) I will use him hands down any day and twice on Sunday if I have any more issues....

acl65pilot 04-10-2012 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1167272)
Sort of. It was a rhetorical question... not necessarily aimed at you. I was just pointing out that DALPA has intentionally downplayed our disparity in pay with the SWA pilots in an effort to lower expectations.

Well I can tell you that everyone I talk to wants more than SWA period. (On the 88 none the less)

scambo1 04-10-2012 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1167322)
Well I can tell you that everyone I talk to wants more than SWA period. (On the 88 none the less)

Are we talking the rate or the w-2?

DAL 88 Driver 04-10-2012 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1167327)
Are we talking the rate or the w-2?

Exactly. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

TeddyKGB 04-10-2012 05:19 PM

And the 70 hour reserve guarantee has to go. 75 Minimum!

acl65pilot 04-11-2012 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1167327)
Are we talking the rate or the w-2?


Pilots want their compensation back. The W-2 is the goal they are all stating for the work of a md-88 pilot. Most WB guys I fly with want A rates on the 777 to go up by the same percentage if not more, but in some cases no less than the highest paid in the industry. 30% would put the 744/777 within striking distance of 300 an hr.

forgot to bid 04-11-2012 04:18 AM

I think I get it now, we've adopted the Coca-Cola Company's business model:
The Coca-Cola Company produces concentrate, which is then sold to licensed Coca-Cola bottlers throughout the world. The bottlers, who hold territorially exclusive contracts with the company, produce finished product in cans and bottles from the concentrate in combination with filtered water and sweeteners. The bottlers then sell, distribute and merchandise Coca-Cola to retail stores and vending machines. Such bottlers include Coca-Cola Enterprises, which is the largest single Coca-Cola bottler in North America and western Europe. The Coca-Cola Company also sells concentrate for soda fountains to major restaurants and food service distributors.
So change a few words:
The Delta Air Lines Company produces concentrate, which is then sold to licensed Airline "bottlers" throughout the country and the world via special marketing agreements. The bottlers, who once held territorially exclusive contracts with the company, produce finished product in tin cans and long uncomfortable metal bottles from the concentrate in combination with potable water and biscoff cookies. The airlinesthen distribute and merchandise Delta to customers via their similar painted vending machines. Such bottlers include Delta Air Lines, which is the largest single "Delta Air Lines" bottler in North America and western Europe...and Eastern Europe, Asia, Africa, Austrailia, etc..
:o

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../7/2089744.jpg

^^^^ I still think that scheme is coming to the entire fleet one day.


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